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Post by Prometheus59650 on Oct 21, 2023 1:18:25 GMT
It's...almost as if that's the sort of thing that happens after you spend years telling your base that MAGA's enemies are America's enemies. |
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Post by scenario on Oct 25, 2023 3:36:32 GMT
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Post by nombrecomun on Oct 26, 2023 17:51:28 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Oct 26, 2023 18:07:29 GMT
That's exactly why Emmer was out. He was seen as too moderate. they want a shutdown and he won't give them one. Johnson will. He seems to be ready to pass a CR to get them through at least to mid-January because God forbid these people actually work anywhere near a holiday. And, from what I've been able to pick up, Jordan's collapse boils down to: 1) Since the Ohio State lawsuits are now allowed to proceed, they don't want to play, "What did Gym know and when did Gym know it?" in an election year. 2) He's just genuinely disliked by his fellow Republicans. |
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Post by scenario on Oct 26, 2023 19:26:54 GMT
Extreme far right Republican's are dead set against socialism and want to root it out. Personal responsibility. It's not my fault you didn't save enough money to pay for your own open heart surgery out of your own pocket. If you can't afford medicine, die. They want to eliminate everything but the military. Less extreme Republicans who are only far right realize that actually eliminating Medicare and Social Security and giving the money to their rich friends would alienate and kill off much of their base. But the extreme far right are very religious and concepts like evidence and logic are evil and should be ignored.
Democrats need to use this.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Nov 5, 2023 3:08:54 GMT
Republicans seem to have reached the stage of just bringing out the worse they have offer. This Mike Johnson guy is really a piece of work. He happily proclaimed that the Bible is his "worldview". So one have to wonder if this theocratic position is at odds with the First Amendment. I think that deep down many GOP members see the Constitution as annoyance, a bothersome obstacle, and if it where for them, they would make a bonfire with it.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 5, 2023 3:33:03 GMT
Republicans seem to have reached the stage of just bringing out the worse they have offer. This Mike Johnson guy is really a piece of work. He happily proclaimed that the Bible is his "worldview". So one have to wonder if this theocratic position is at odds with the First Amendment. I think that deep down many GOP members see the Constitution as annoyance, a bothersome obstacle, and if it where for them, they would make a bonfire with it. Well, they're losing demographics everywhere. America is less white. America is less Christian. They're on the way out and the Constitution and democracy is in the way. It's theocracy or a dead political party. They'd rather chuck the country than come up with ideas that might be more popular. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Nov 5, 2023 18:48:30 GMT
They'd rather chuck the country than come up with ideas that might be more popular. That's what bugs me to no end. Americans don't seem to see that they're really undermining basic things in this country. We hear 'woke', 'equal pay', 'bathroom issues', 'immigrants', etc.....as inflammatory culture battles that does appeal to a certain segment of their base. But none of that offers answers in how to improve conditions in this country for its citizens. The core GOP values are sound ones. Less government for example. No problem. The issue then becomes how the GOP defines that. They get to choose when to apply this. Regulating a woman's body doesn't count. More military, less funding for education, less employees' rights, more employer protections, etc..... And their embrace of conservative Christianity flies against all that this nation stands for. It doesn't make sense to me that this party currently houses both Libertarian and conservative religious aspects. Those two things are at odds with each fundamentally. The insanity of inconsistency. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 5, 2023 19:29:07 GMT
They'd rather chuck the country than come up with ideas that might be more popular. That's what bugs me to no end. Americans don't seem to see that they're really undermining basic things in this country. We hear 'woke', 'equal pay', 'bathroom issues', 'immigrants', etc.....as inflammatory culture battles that does appeal to a certain segment of their base. But none of that offers answers in how to improve conditions in this country for its citizens. The core GOP values are sound ones. Less government for example. No problem. The issue then becomes how the GOP defines that. They get to choose when to apply this. Regulating a woman's body doesn't count. More military, less funding for education, less employees' rights, more employer protections, etc..... And their embrace of conservative Christianity flies against all that this nation stands for. It doesn't make sense to me that this party currently houses both Libertarian and conservative religious aspects. Those two things are at odds with each fundamentally. The insanity of inconsistency. Well, "less government" used to mean, to the GOP, less bureaucracy and more efficiency. Before Regan, anyway. After that, it meant that government could do nothing right but build bombs, and that it shouldn't try. It's always problem and never the solution. Every GOP throughline used today on abortion, women's rights and almost any other topic can find its seeds in Reaganism. Trump is the natural heir to Reagan.Trump is Reagan without the speechwriters to pretty it up or slide in code phrases like "Welfare moms in Cadillacs." |
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Post by nombrecomun on Nov 9, 2023 20:38:25 GMT
It's quite sad to see this party continue to lower the bar. At the same time it's quite funny to see candidates(both brown) who have no shot at being the GOP Presidential nominee cut each other so savagely. thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4301070-haley-calls-ramaswamy-scum-leave-my-daughter-out-of-your-voice/Meanwhile, Pence hung up his gloves about 2 weeks ago and it doesn't seem like anyone cared to even bother commenting about it either on social media or other news avenues. He was such a bowl of lukewarm oatmeal. |
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Post by scenario on Nov 9, 2023 23:05:50 GMT
Pence reminds me of Himmler. The quiet unassuming guy with deeply held beliefs who would be willing to sign papers ordering the deaths of millions of people without a seconds thought. It was gods will they all died.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 10, 2023 1:48:19 GMT
The worst part is not just something like throwing his hands up and letting it happen, it's him signing the papers with the calm righteousness that comes with him knowing that he's doing what God wants.
God never drives them to something that they don't want to do.
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Post by scenario on Nov 10, 2023 2:01:45 GMT
Do Jimmy Carter and Mike Pence worship the same god?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 10, 2023 2:21:52 GMT
Do Jimmy Carter and Mike Pence worship the same god? All available evidence says, "No way in Hell." |
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Post by scenario on Nov 14, 2023 22:51:01 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 15, 2023 2:22:55 GMT
They have repeatedly held that healthcare workers of various types weren't immune to vaccination and other requirements. |
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Post by scenario on Nov 15, 2023 22:36:48 GMT
Now that abortions are illegal in a lot of states I wonder what schools are going to do about 6th graders breast feeding their babies in math class?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 15, 2023 23:11:45 GMT
Now that abortions are illegal in a lot of states I wonder what schools are going to do about 6th graders breast feeding their babies in math class? Hard to know when school districts in those states usually don't know what to do about girls with exposed shoulders. |
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Post by scenario on Nov 16, 2023 18:12:34 GMT
I'd love to see a breast feeding protest in a year or so. Several hundred 12,13,14 year old girls forced to have children long before they are ready to quietly breast feeding their children on the steps of congress.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 16, 2023 19:02:21 GMT
I'd love to see a breast feeding protest in a year or so. Several hundred 12,13,14 year old girls forced to have children long before they are ready to quietly breast feeding their children on the steps of congress. The "pro-life" people would be the first to call them ---res. |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Nov 18, 2023 3:32:17 GMT
What's your position on Trump getting banned from running as a candidate for President? The debate is heating up with some states (like Colorado) already presenting legislation to keep Trump out of their ballots. Lawyers are splitting hairs about language -as lawyers often do- and the legality of these possibles bans the states might issues, about the meaning of the words "engaging in insurrection" and on whether Trump is actually an insurrectionist and thus not eligible to run. Many say that states bans could be view as overreaching and Trump should just be allow to run and let the people judge the morality of the candidate. I can see and understand this position but in my opinion Trump should not be allow to run. A very key part of American government is the rule of law. I see value in the argument that Trump should NOT be allow to run because his actions show that he does not respect the laws of the country he wants to lead. He might not have utter the exact words "this is an insurrection" or "I want all of you to overthrow the government" but his actions amount to the same thing. Allowing him to run is like saying that the Constitution doesn't matter; it is not and issue to be decided by the people on the ballot box, the letter of the law shows that HE have make himself not electable to hold public office.
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Post by scenario on Nov 18, 2023 4:29:51 GMT
There is a possibility that Trump could be imprisoned within a few months.
I do believe that its pretty obvious he tried to overturn the election by illegal means. The question is does that mean he isn't eligible. He shouldn't be but that's a legal question.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 18, 2023 5:07:53 GMT
What's your position on Trump getting banned from running as a candidate for President? The debate is heating up with some states (like Colorado) already presenting legislation to keep Trump out of their ballots. Lawyers are splitting hairs about language -as lawyers often do- and the legality of these possibles bans the states might issues, about the meaning of the words "engaging in insurrection" and on whether Trump is actually an insurrectionist and thus not eligible to run. Many say that states bans could be view as overreaching and Trump should just be allow to run and let the people judge the morality of the candidate. I can see and understand this position but in my opinion Trump should not be allow to run. A very key part of American government is the rule of law. I see value in the argument that Trump should NOT be allow to run because his actions show that he does not respect the laws of the country he wants to lead. He might not have utter the exact words "this is an insurrection" or "I want all of you to overthrow the government" but his actions amount to the same thing. Allowing him to run is like saying that the Constitution doesn't matter; it is not and issue to be decided by the people on the ballot box, the letter of the law shows that HE have make himself not electable to hold public office. Michigan and Minnesota ruled that he can remain on the ballot, as did Colorado, but Colorado's ruling was odd that the judge did deem that Trump had engaged in Insurrection, but, when he was standing at the podium on 1.6., he was not "an officer of the United States as defined in the Amendment. Overall, I'd say she punted the question, as the Colorado case will likely head to the state Supreme Court. She might have feared the MAGAts. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Nov 21, 2023 16:30:58 GMT
"Michigan and Minnesota ruled that he can remain on the ballot, as did Colorado, but Colorado's ruling was odd that the judge did deem that Trump had engaged in Insurrection, but, when he was standing at the podium on 1.6., he was not "an officer of the United States as defined in the Amendment."
Um....Yes he was. All the Judge had to do was look it up.
" This grant of authority establishes the President as the chief constitutional OFFICER of the Executive Branch, entrusted with supervisory and policy responsibilities of utmost discretion and sensitivity." (457 U.S. 749-750).
Just putting that out there. This judge is effing stupid and doesn't know enough to be a judge.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 21, 2023 18:34:06 GMT
"Michigan and Minnesota ruled that he can remain on the ballot, as did Colorado, but Colorado's ruling was odd that the judge did deem that Trump had engaged in Insurrection, but, when he was standing at the podium on 1.6., he was not "an officer of the United States as defined in the Amendment." Um....Yes he was. All the Judge had to do was look it up. " This grant of authority establishes the President as the chief constitutional OFFICER of the Executive Branch, entrusted with supervisory and policy responsibilities of utmost discretion and sensitivity." (457 U.S. 749-750). Just putting that out there. This judge is effing stupid and doesn't know enough to be a judge. The judge didn't wanna get shot, so she punted, is my take. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Nov 22, 2023 7:55:54 GMT
"Michigan and Minnesota ruled that he can remain on the ballot, as did Colorado, but Colorado's ruling was odd that the judge did deem that Trump had engaged in Insurrection, but, when he was standing at the podium on 1.6., he was not "an officer of the United States as defined in the Amendment." Um....Yes he was. All the Judge had to do was look it up. " This grant of authority establishes the President as the chief constitutional OFFICER of the Executive Branch, entrusted with supervisory and policy responsibilities of utmost discretion and sensitivity." (457 U.S. 749-750). Just putting that out there. This judge is effing stupid and doesn't know enough to be a judge. The judge didn't wanna get shot, so she punted, is my take. Agreed. Pretty scary times in which we live. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 2, 2024 17:54:06 GMT
Curious as to what others think about these state movements to bar Trump from appearing on the ballot. Couldn't he be a write-in?
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Post by Yorick on Jan 2, 2024 19:26:14 GMT
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Post by scenario on Jan 3, 2024 0:00:38 GMT
If the courts decide Trump is ineligible write in would count as much as writing in Mickey Mouse. |
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Post by scenario on Jan 3, 2024 3:12:00 GMT
I've been reading about the Tokyo plane crash. 379 people got out of a burning plane alive in less than a minute. There are two reasons everyone on that plane survived. First regulations. What Republican's call needless red tape. The second is that the people on the plane listened to the flight attendants. Republicans would have called them elitists and stood there arguing about conspiracy theories.
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I am so sorry...