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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 1:16:58 GMT
Here.
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Post by Tupperfan on Mar 7, 2023 4:23:51 GMT
I heard episode 5 will be called "Khaaaaaan!!!"
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 4:30:53 GMT
I heard episode 5 will be called "Khaaaaaan!!!" You kid, but it wouldn't shock me. Because this show is not about originality. |
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Post by RobinBland on Mar 7, 2023 13:18:52 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll just binge the lot later.)
Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo of Troi last week.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 15:20:55 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll juts binge the lot later.) Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo Troi last week. I'm not surprised she's not all that keen on participating in promotion. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Mar 7, 2023 17:01:07 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll juts binge the lot later.) Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo Troi last week. I'm not surprised she's not all that keen on participating in promotion. Because she knows that its garbage. I'm still on the band wagon that this season was actually written by an A.I. One that takes from clichés and Harlequin Novels. Can't even be original with the episode titles. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 7, 2023 18:13:18 GMT
I'm not surprised she's not all that keen on participating in promotion. Because she knows that its garbage. I'm still on the band wagon that this season was actually written by an A.I. One that takes from clichés and Harlequin Novels. Can't even be original with the episode titles. It may be that her participation is limited because she saw it was crap but I wonder if it has more to do because her husband died recently and I understand she moved back to England so including her is gonna be more difficult than basically everyone else that lives in LA. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 7, 2023 18:14:32 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll juts binge the lot later.) Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo Troi last week. I think the only person left is Geordi and I can't see how his involvement would radically make the show any better. It would be nice to see him of course but I think Worf is about the only crew member that elicits that "WOW" factor, you know? |
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Post by RobinBland on Mar 7, 2023 18:42:10 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll just binge the lot later.) Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo Troi last week. I think the only person left is Geordi and I can't see how his involvement would radically make the show any better. It would be nice to see him of course but I think Worf is about the only crew member that elicits that "WOW" factor, you know? Well, Geordi, yeah... and Lore! After last season I'm not waiting with bated breath for Brent Spiner's latest scenery-chewing "Bad Soong" excursion. I always liked Deanna Troi though, much of which was to do with the charm Marina Sirtis brought to the character, as there wasn't an awful lot to her. So I hope when they do properly bring her onstage, it's not with the usual set of clichés the character is often saddled with. Chabon did, I thought, a great job bringing back an older, wiser Troi in S1. I did an inward groan about Troi and Riker having some time away from each other at the beginning of this season. I didn't know that about Sirtis' husband. I read a little online - how sad. I understand why she moved back home. Sometimes I feel like that... |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 19:02:45 GMT
After last season I'm not waiting with bated breath for Brent Spiner's latest scenery-chewing "Bad Soong" excursion.
They really are all the same guy. No nuance whatsoever.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 19:05:15 GMT
I’m kind of at the point where this episode is make or break, in that it may - or may not - cause me to shut off my free month at Paramount+. (And I’ll juts binge the lot later.) Maybe Worf will keep me watching? Perhaps one of the other TNG characters will reappear. Hopefully not like Marina Sirtis’ dreadfully clichéd cameo Troi last week. I think the only person left is Geordi and I can't see how his involvement would radically make the show any better. It would be nice to see him of course but I think Worf is about the only crew member that elicits that "WOW" factor, you know? The only time the words 'Geordi' and 'exciting' appear together is with, "I wish Geordi was an exciting character." |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Mar 7, 2023 19:32:29 GMT
What's the deal with the masked crew on the Shrike? The clicking sounding language could be an artificial language, a machine-generated speech. Could they be clones somehow? What if when they remove their mask they are all versions of the D crew? Titan seems to be falling into a life form, the Nebula appears to be alive. What sort of entity is this? If the individual consciousness that compose the Great Link expand enough, could they become a nebula?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 19:44:37 GMT
What's the deal with the masked crew on the Shrike? The clicking sounding language could be an artificial language, a machine-generated speech. Could they be clones somehow? What if when they remove their mask they are all versions of the D crew? Titan seems to be falling into a life form, the Nebula appears to be alive. What sort of entity is this? If the individual consciousness that compose the Great Link expand enough, could they become a nebula?
It's an interesting notion. Changelings can exist as a gas. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Mar 7, 2023 21:47:59 GMT
What's the deal with the masked crew on the Shrike? The clicking sounding language could be an artificial language, a machine-generated speech. Could they be clones somehow? What if when they remove their mask they are all versions of the D crew? Titan seems to be falling into a life form, the Nebula appears to be alive. What sort of entity is this? If the individual consciousness that compose the Great Link expand enough, could they become a nebula?
That would be the only original idea in the whole daggum show....so I doubt it. Its a GREAT idea, but because its Great, I don't think that's what it is. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 22:00:44 GMT
What's the deal with the masked crew on the Shrike? The clicking sounding language could be an artificial language, a machine-generated speech. Could they be clones somehow? What if when they remove their mask they are all versions of the D crew? Titan seems to be falling into a life form, the Nebula appears to be alive. What sort of entity is this? If the individual consciousness that compose the Great Link expand enough, could they become a nebula?
That would be the only original idea in the whole daggum show....so I doubt it. Its a GREAT idea, but because its Great, I don't think that's what it is. It's too "familiar with DS9 lore and a clever use of it" to be used. This show is a random scramble of "Best of" bits, callbacks, and Easter eggs. There will be no dalliance with clever here. |
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Post by RobinBland on Mar 8, 2023 3:40:45 GMT
Those clicking sounds are similar to the way the extradimensional aliens that attacked the Ent-D in Schisms sounded.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Mar 8, 2023 5:11:39 GMT
I'm not surprised she's not all that keen on participating in promotion. Because she knows that its garbage. I'm still on the band wagon that this season was actually written by an A.I. One that takes from clichés and Harlequin Novels. Can't even be original with the episode titles. It really does feel that way in places. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Mar 8, 2023 5:12:55 GMT
Those clicking sounds are similar to the way the extradimensional aliens that attacked the Ent-D in Schisms sounded. Once again, a rejiggering of familiar elements. Sherlock is right; this really is something written by a chatbot. |
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Post by ashleytinger on Mar 9, 2023 14:46:06 GMT
This, of all the episodes this season, felt the most like a TNG episode. You have the crew working together to solve the problem, a suitable technobabble solution, the crew being clever in figuring out the changeling, and a nice little bit of hope at the end there.
The callback to Galaxy Quest was subtle but a nice nod to what Vadic did earlier in the season too.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Mar 9, 2023 15:47:23 GMT
This was really good! Who would have thought they will pulled a good one out of the improbability hat? It has a sort of stand alone format, maybe that's why it work. I think I saw a problem on the changeling angle here, but I post about it later while I think about it. Overall a solid episode.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Mar 9, 2023 16:45:52 GMT
I actually enjoyed this episode. But The glaring thing to me is, they still haven't figured out how to pull power from the holodeck's magic generators.
I too thought "Galaxy Quest" with the asteroid thing. All we need is "...And what you FAIL TO REALIZE Vadik, is MY SHIP is DRAGGING ROCKS!"
Its kinda sad to see that Picard still has to suffer the hate from people who were at Wolf 359. If it weren't for Picard, Captain Dipschitz Shaw, Earth would have been assimilated at the battle of Sector 001. He save many lives ending the battle with the Enterprise-E and her fancy Quantum torpedoes....which for some reason are still not standardized.....even 30 years later.
I feel like Riker was a bit out of character. He would not have argued this long over that plan. I think they were just padding out the episode. I think thats one of the things that make these episode hour long nothing happenings is arguments are dragged out way too long. ...I still don't buy that Riker and Troi were on the rocks because "Im dead inside" reasons. Thats more like AI scripting to me.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 9, 2023 17:11:33 GMT
I actually liked the episode quite a bit, which is a nice change of pace.
I don't know what to say though, for Riker, a man for whom Data actually appraised with words to the effect of, "The weaker his position, the more aggressive will be his posture." That's a guy that throws asteroids at you.
This is not a guy that debates an impossible plan when the alternative is CERTAIN DEATH. That was stupid.
I will say though that I do get the 'dead inside' thing. That is to say that I get it enough to go with it for the sake of DrAmA! It's inoffensive to the character because no one really knows how the death of a child will affect them and I don't hate it.
But this was how a crew behaves and what I expected a flippin' week ago.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Mar 9, 2023 18:43:19 GMT
As I understood it, the changeling mission aboard Titan was to somehow secure that Jack Crusher is captured alive. Right, or did I missed something? I must have. Because if that the changeling objective and Titan is falling to it's imminent obliteration, why would he try to stop Seven and Shaw from activating the nacelles to further Titan's escape? I mean, the changeling also wants the success of escaping because that would preserves Jack Crusher life. Or maybe this is how we are finding out that there are other factions at play.
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Post by ashleytinger on Mar 9, 2023 19:08:10 GMT
As I understood it, the changeling mission aboard Titan was to somehow secure that Jack Crusher is captured alive. Right, or did I missed something? I must have. Because if that the changeling objective and Titan is falling to it's imminent obliteration, why would he try to stop Seven and Shaw from activating the nacelles to further Titan's escape? I mean, the changeling also wants the success of escaping because that would preserves Jack Crusher life. Or maybe this is how we are finding out that there are other factions at play. The Changeling did question if they had one nacelle if it would work and if that was the case would that keep them from warp. It wasn't to stop the escape, it was to ensure they couldn't get away once they were outside the nebula. One nacelle, good, two nacelles bad. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 9, 2023 19:10:59 GMT
^^^ That.
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 9, 2023 21:04:41 GMT
Still very 'meh' to me....but somehow I'm compelled to buy a bottle of Jameson. LOL!!!
Chatgpt writing for sure.
I like the abrasive Cpt No...but he should have never been a captain. That holodeck scene where he puts down Picard in front of his crew is proof enough. The continuing Picard bashing is getting real old. Makes no sense that someone this unpolished for lack of a better word would be in command of a ship.
I can't believe that they are faced with a couple of hours to live and the first half of the ep is devoted to emotional drama. The Star Trek TNG crew I knew would spend a good portion of that figuring out what to do. Beverly seems to be the only one trying to understand what is happening but that's so in the background until about 3/4 into the ep.
We're almost halfway done with this season and we really haven't learned much about what's going on.
And I'm done with the mustachio twirling Vadic. I get the call out to her dad in a similar role but that only lasts a bit. You gotta do something more than spout of stuff. Plummer is an excellent actress. She deserves more than this.
On the plus side no Raffi.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 9, 2023 21:19:33 GMT
Still very 'meh' to me....but somehow I'm compelled to buy a bottle of Jameson. LOL!!! Chatgpt writing for sure. I like the abrasive Cpt No...but he should have never been a captain. That holodeck scene where he puts down Picard in front of his crew is proof enough. The continuing Picard bashing is getting real old. Makes no sense that someone this unpolished for lack of a better word would be in command of a ship. I can't believe that they are faced with a couple of hours to live and the first half of the ep is devoted to emotional drama. The Star Trek TNG crew I knew would spend a good portion of that figuring out what to do. Beverly seems to be the only one trying to understand what is happening but that's so in the background until about 3/4 into the ep. We're almost halfway done with this season and we really haven't learned much about what's going on. And I'm done with the mustachio twirling Vadic. I get the call out to her dad in a similar role but that only lasts a bit. You gotta do something more than spout of stuff. Plummer is an excellent actress. She deserves more than this. On the plus side no Raffi. I agree with a lot of that. I was reminded (intentionally, I'm sure) of "Booby Trap" and most of the hour was devoted to "Find me more power." They never stopped trying to solve the problem, and I'll even give them a moment or two here, and give them Riker telling Picard, "I'm going to do whatever we can, you know that. But, if it doesn't work out the way we want it to, you should spend some of this time with your son." But EVERYBODY'S emotional baggage is considered here. I fear this is going to be the highlight of the season, such as it has been because, hey, we still haven't been reintroduced to the awesomeness that is Lore yet. And I'll even give Captain Jackass credit for his anger because some people could never get over something like that. I'll even give him his FU, Picard rant. But not in public. That was just the wrong side of unhinged. Modern serialized Trek feels like a trip to a lazy therapists office. Something happened. How do you feel about that? Something happened. How does that make you feel? What do you think I should do? What do YOU think you should do? |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 9, 2023 22:06:27 GMT
But EVERYBODY'S emotional baggage is considered here. And I'll even give Captain Jackass credit for his anger because some people could never get over something like that. I'll even give him his FU, Picard rant. But not in public. That was just the wrong side of unhinged. Modern serialized Trek feels like a trip to a lazy therapists office. Something happened. How do you feel about that? Something happened. How does that make you feel? What do you think I should do? What do YOU think you should do? LOL!!! Nailed it. I'll even go farther. This is Star Trek: The Self Help Section. The other scene that had my eyes rolling out of my skull was at the end in which Picard all of a sudden realizes it was his son, sitting somewhere in the background, asking him a question at a bar many years ago. At no point in the ep are we lead to believe that Picard was thinking about that dinner all these years ago while the present day events were happening but he suddenly 'realizes' this? Also, how effin' annoying are those young Starfleet kids??!!!! Leave the old man to eat his dinner in peace!!! |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Mar 9, 2023 22:18:33 GMT
Cardassian: How many Lights do you see?
Picard: THERE ARE NO LIGHTS!!!
Cardassian: WRONG!!! There are tons of lights
Picard: THEY PUT OUT NO LIGHT...
Cardassian:....fair enough, you are not wrong...
Sorry, still can't get past the darkness of this season...
The grief Sisko felt was held back. He held back after he crossed a line. Sisko was more professional in demonstrating that he had issues with Picard. And in the end, Sisko was respectful to the Captain.
I did half expect Laforge to be a red herring, that the real Laforge was with Seven and Shaw, that it was the fake one on the bridge...
So, what's everyone's thought on Vadik's evil talking hand, and who it might be?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 9, 2023 22:19:52 GMT
But EVERYBODY'S emotional baggage is considered here. And I'll even give Captain Jackass credit for his anger because some people could never get over something like that. I'll even give him his FU, Picard rant. But not in public. That was just the wrong side of unhinged. Modern serialized Trek feels like a trip to a lazy therapists office. Something happened. How do you feel about that? Something happened. How does that make you feel? What do you think I should do? What do YOU think you should do? LOL!!! Nailed it. I'll even go farther. This is Star Trek: The Self Help Section. The other scene that had my eyes rolling out of my skull was at the end in which Picard all of a sudden realizes it was his son, sitting somewhere in the background, asking him a question at a bar many years ago. At no point in the ep are we lead to believe that Picard was thinking about that dinner all these years ago while the present day events were happening but he suddenly 'realizes' this? Also, how effin' annoying are those young Starfleet kids??!!!! Leave the old man to eat his dinner in peace!!! Fanboy for a minute, sure. You're never going to see him again, so, sure. But then you back off. And, I can see him remembering his son, but not randomly. Not, "Oh, yeah, that was you." Fine if Jack reminds him of it, but not judt this sudden epiphany. It'd be a nothing footnote in his memory, barely considered until Jack reminded him of it.. |
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I am so sorry...
Jul 14, 2024 1:18:27 GMT
I am so sorry...
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