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Post by RobinBland on Jan 17, 2023 0:07:23 GMT
When it comes to publicity of any kind, I'm pretty happy with my plugged-in solutions to minimize them, so no worries about ads on my side. As for costs, Prom, will you need any assistance on that front? No, but sincerely, thanks for asking. If we grew by leaps and bounds somehow then maybe, but everything at this point is free or nominal cost, so I think we're good.  Just let us know. Happy to support our new vessel (and captain) however we can. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jan 17, 2023 1:06:39 GMT
No, but sincerely, thanks for asking. If we grew by leaps and bounds somehow then maybe, but everything at this point is free or nominal cost, so I think we're good. Just let us know. Happy to support our new vessel (and captain) however we can. I love it here, gotta say. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 17, 2023 1:26:28 GMT
That was the plan, of course. I just felt like maybe I wasn't the only one who needed a "slow lane" from TrekBBS. |
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Post by The Founder on Jan 17, 2023 2:48:48 GMT
Hello all. I may or may not have been an Olympic-level swimmer in the Great Link. Nice to see you all again. Sad to see that OS is officially closed.  |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 17, 2023 4:26:41 GMT
Ads dont bother me until they're blowing up my screen. Adverts at the top was never a bother for me. I had to have them when i had my invision free boards as a teenager.
oh hey Sector001!!! Welcome aboard. Glad you found us.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 17, 2023 4:43:48 GMT
Hello all. I may or may not have been an Olympic-level swimmer in the Great Link. Nice to see you all again. Sad to see that OS is officially closed. It is. There were a lot of solid, nuanced conversations there and I'll miss the place a lot. |
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Post by scenario on Jan 17, 2023 4:44:50 GMT
Welcome Sector001.
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Post by Tupperfan on Jan 17, 2023 17:31:44 GMT
Hello all. I may or may not have been an Olympic-level swimmer in the Great Link. Founder/Emissary? |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Jan 17, 2023 17:53:39 GMT
Hi everyone. Another refugee from Omega Sector. Being a Trek fan most of my life. Avid reader. Spanish my main parlance. Spock is my spirit animal. Pues bienvenido y que bueno ver a otra persona que habla español. Asà es! Además de español también hablo puertorriqueño!  Hay que bregar! |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Jan 17, 2023 18:01:32 GMT
I'd be more than happy if he popped by, but I think his primary investment in Trek was Sir Pat and now that that thread is gone, I'm not sure how much motivation he has left. I also got that distinct sense. Vie remains in regular contact with him. ... I just checked Omega Sector. Gone. All those posts... all that essaying and conversation. POOF. Oblivion. Into the dark. Everyone who migrated over to TrekBBS (that I could find) I followed, so I'll send each of them who isn't already here a PM to let them know this place exists too. [Edit] That, basically, amounts to The Founder AKA The Emissary over there. PMd him. Kind of disheartening, right? Everything vanished into the void... People used to say that on the internet nothing really disappear, I wonder if that is true. Can someone with technical knowhow be able to retrieve that Omega archive? How the saying goes from Blade Runner "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain." |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 17, 2023 18:27:57 GMT
Pues bienvenido y que bueno ver a otra persona que habla español. Asà es! Además de español también hablo puertorriqueño! Hay que bregar! HAHAHA!!!! De Guaynabo. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 17, 2023 19:46:44 GMT
Doubtful. I mean, I don't know exactly when the things happen in the process, whether it's immediate, or it takes some time to get to it when it comes to some sort of maintenance cycle, but all of that will eventually be wiped.
It will indeed be gone as though it never was.
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Post by Tupperfan on Jan 17, 2023 20:28:43 GMT
Kind of disheartening, right? Everything vanished into the void... People used to say that on the internet nothing really disappear, I wonder if that is true. Can someone with technical knowhow be able to retrieve that Omega archive? How the saying goes from Blade Runner "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain." There's a chance you can retrieve select moments through the Wayback Machine's internet archive and similar services, but it would be based on what the web crawler/scraper finds (and you might need specific thread URLs, as the links on the scraped main page are usually not working). I did it for Trekweb a few times but don't expect to find much that way, aside from interesting snapshots about precise moments and the evolving look of the site through the years.
For exemple, I just tried to find anything on the Sir Pat Stewart Topic and it was never scraped, so...
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 18, 2023 22:46:18 GMT
I also got that distinct sense. Vie remains in regular contact with him. ... I just checked Omega Sector. Gone. All those posts... all that essaying and conversation. POOF. Oblivion. Into the dark. Everyone who migrated over to TrekBBS (that I could find) I followed, so I'll send each of them who isn't already here a PM to let them know this place exists too. [Edit] That, basically, amounts to The Founder AKA The Emissary over there. PMd him. Kind of disheartening, right? Everything vanished into the void... People used to say that on the internet nothing really disappear, I wonder if that is true. Can someone with technical knowhow be able to retrieve that Omega archive? How the saying goes from Blade Runner "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain." Yup. Nothing lasts forever, I guess, but as long as there's an electricity supply, I thought digital archives would last. Alas, I didn't think of maintenance fees. When you start contributing to a message board, it feels like it's kind of ephemeral... y'know, just conversation. A fun way to pass time and talk with likeminded souls about cultural stuff. But I think conversations are the most important human endeavor, really... it's how we figure things out, via those points of connection. Damn (Waybackmachine notwithstanding!), it was incredible shame that all those stories just got swallowed up by digital economic necessity. |
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 18, 2023 22:47:57 GMT
Hello all. I may or may not have been an Olympic-level swimmer in the Great Link. Nice to see you all again. Sad to see that OS is officially closed. Founder / Emissary...? |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Jan 19, 2023 22:48:45 GMT
But I think conversations are the most important human endeavor, really... it's how we figure things out, via those points of connection. Indeed they are!
The tragedy of all this is that we don't have a say on the determination of cultural preservation. The philosopher M. Foucault was once ask, what should we save from Nietzsche's writing? And he responded even the grocery list. While there's no Nietzsche among us, that analogy illustrate that every scrap of thought constitute an image of a civilization. I think the ephemeral nature of internet culture is harmful. Too much slide into oblivion. Too many bonfires everywhere. What if a future archeologist wants to study progress and science representations on Trek fandom? Omega sample would be lost. Why?
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Post by scenario on Jan 19, 2023 23:15:59 GMT
But I think conversations are the most important human endeavor, really... it's how we figure things out, via those points of connection. Indeed they are!
The tragedy of all this is that we don't have a say on the determination of cultural preservation. The philosopher M. Foucault was once ask, what should we save from Nietzsche's writing? And he responded even the grocery list. While there's no Nietzsche among us, that analogy illustrate that every scrap of thought constitute an image of a civilization. I think the ephemeral nature of internet culture is harmful. Too much slide into oblivion. Too many bonfires everywhere. What if a future archeologist wants to study progress and science representations on Trek fandom? Omega sample would be lost. Why?
The downside of saving everything is it gives enemies something to attack you with. No one is perfect but a lot of people expect you to be. A parent posts a cute video of an 18 month old stealing something. They are now unhirable 40 years later. |
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 20, 2023 0:11:44 GMT
Indeed they are!
The tragedy of all this is that we don't have a say on the determination of cultural preservation. The philosopher M. Foucault was once ask, what should we save from Nietzsche's writing? And he responded even the grocery list. While there's no Nietzsche among us, that analogy illustrate that every scrap of thought constitute an image of a civilization. I think the ephemeral nature of internet culture is harmful. Too much slide into oblivion. Too many bonfires everywhere. What if a future archeologist wants to study progress and science representations on Trek fandom? Omega sample would be lost. Why?
The downside of saving everything is it gives enemies something to attack you with. No one is perfect but a lot of people expect you to be. A parent posts a cute video of an 18 month old stealing something. They are now unhirable 40 years later. Yeah, but that's the beauty of anonymous message boards. There's something civilised about them, because you're reduced to your powers of conversing. Well, Omega Sector, anyway. Plus, we're not posting pics of our "perfect lifestyle!" I like that Nietzsche reference, GarakNephew. I agree, there's a lot of good that gets thrown out with the bad. Dammit, I meant to go on there before it vanished and save a whole thread me and Vie irregularly contributed to about AI representations in culture. Not to mention a bunch of either stuff... there was too much and I was too busy over the holiday season. Too late now. [Sigh.] I can't regret what's lost though, not now. Gotta look ahead and to all the good talking we'll do here. |
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Post by The Founder on Jan 22, 2023 2:12:45 GMT
I also got that distinct sense. Vie remains in regular contact with him. ... I just checked Omega Sector. Gone. All those posts... all that essaying and conversation. POOF. Oblivion. Into the dark. Everyone who migrated over to TrekBBS (that I could find) I followed, so I'll send each of them who isn't already here a PM to let them know this place exists too. [Edit] That, basically, amounts to The Founder AKA The Emissary over there. PMd him. Kind of disheartening, right? Everything vanished into the void... People used to say that on the internet nothing really disappear, I wonder if that is true. Can someone with technical knowhow be able to retrieve that Omega archive? How the saying goes from Blade Runner "all those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain." It is possible. My first Star Trek forum was called STV.com (StarTrekVoyager.com). It went the same route as OS but many years later someone was able to archive it. No one can post on it (obviously) but it is possible to essentially turn it into a "read-only" website so you can go back and have a nostalgia-fest re-reading old posts. Now if someone will do that with OS is a whole other question. It is sad but it's nice that Prom was nice enough to build this new place for us that we can build out new memories on. As G'Kar says "I believe that when we leave a place, part of it goes with us and part of us remains." We can build new memories here and continue our nerdy obsessions and philosophical pinings here too. |
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Post by BeastBoy on Jan 22, 2023 11:14:57 GMT
I still don't understand why TheOmegaSector has been closed. Admins of Trekcore could do transfer the entire forum and user base to another hosting.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 22, 2023 16:32:17 GMT
I still don't understand why TheOmegaSector has been closed. Admins of Trekcore could do transfer the entire forum and user base to another hosting. I think it was more the fact that Virogen had just let the place autopilot for years and was simply tired of dealing with it. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 22, 2023 18:51:10 GMT
I still don't understand why TheOmegaSector has been closed. Admins of Trekcore could do transfer the entire forum and user base to another hosting. I think it was more the fact that Virogen had just let the place autopilot for years and was simply tired of dealing with it. Which was the same issue with Steve and Trekweb. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 22, 2023 19:38:59 GMT
I think it was more the fact that Virogen had just let the place autopilot for years and was simply tired of dealing with it. Which was the same issue with Steve and Trekweb. Basically, but what will always vex me about that is that there were people willing and able to step up as they were not for TrekCore. It could have continued, he simply wasn't interested in anyone else running it. On the one hand, it was his to kill, no question. On the other, I remember well how excited Gus and Gabe were at the prospect of breathing new life into the place for about a week until Steve just chucked the site into the trash because he didn't want anyone else's name on it. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 22, 2023 20:20:13 GMT
Which was the same issue with Steve and Trekweb. Basically, but what will always vex me about that is that there were people willing and able to step up as they were not for TrekCore. It could have continued, he simply wasn't interested in anyone else running it. On the one hand, it was his to kill, no question. On the other, I remember well how excited Gus and Gabe were at the prospect of breathing new life into the place for about a week until Steve just chucked the site into the trash because he didn't want anyone else's name on it. Oh! I didn't know about that back story. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 22, 2023 20:37:43 GMT
Basically, but what will always vex me about that is that there were people willing and able to step up as they were not for TrekCore. It could have continued, he simply wasn't interested in anyone else running it. On the one hand, it was his to kill, no question. On the other, I remember well how excited Gus and Gabe were at the prospect of breathing new life into the place for about a week until Steve just chucked the site into the trash because he didn't want anyone else's name on it. Oh! I didn't know about that back story. Yeah, Gus was fairly gushing for a few days and Gabe Kroener had even dropped some layouts for the new looks of the pages and they were actually pretty classy, but that didn't last long. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 22, 2023 21:11:29 GMT
btw, what ever happened to Gus? I've noticed I hadn't seen him at OS for a good while.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 22, 2023 21:44:22 GMT
btw, what ever happened to Gus? I've noticed I hadn't seen him at OS for a good while. My understanding is that he seemed to accept that he was being sort of a deliberate buzzkill on the site because he just wasn't enjoying any part of current Trek anymore, so he requested to be banned. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 22, 2023 22:17:34 GMT
btw, what ever happened to Gus? I've noticed I hadn't seen him at OS for a good while. My understanding is that he seemed to accept that he was being sort of a deliberate buzzkill on the site because he just wasn't enjoying any part of current Trek anymore, so he requested to be banned. That's a weird way to go. To have yourself banned. Why just not participate? Interesting. I should say I haven't enjoyed much of Trek either but these sites are my "catch all" for all scifi, fantasy, etc...even politics. There's a lot more to have a conversation about than just Trek....although I do get it's weird since it is a Trek-centered website. |
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Post by scenario on Jan 22, 2023 23:00:12 GMT
btw, what ever happened to Gus? I've noticed I hadn't seen him at OS for a good while. There was a thred since 2019 with one of Gus's comments on top. Everytime I saw that post I thought of him. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 23, 2023 0:18:02 GMT
I remember he tried to Single handedly hold Trekweb together when the owners just let it go. At least Virogen gave the OS an official end and just didn't let it die of neglect.
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Hay que bregar!
I am so sorry...
Jul 14, 2024 1:18:27 GMT
I am so sorry...
Jul 14, 2024 1:18:27 GMT