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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 8, 2023 18:47:47 GMT
I just rewatched "The Measure of a Man". What a remarkable hour of television. After all these years is still brought a couple of tears to my eyes. "That act injured you and saved me. I will not forget it." -Data. Wow!... The whole series of "Picard" can't touch that episode with a 10 foot pole. You’ve made me want to go and rewatch it now. It’s just in a different league, a different world to current ST: Picard in terms of writing. Did you watch the extended cut (I think it’s one of the S2 blu-rays)? Or just the regular version? IIRC, the extended cut doesn’t add that much… just a few longer scenes here and there. No. I do not have any of the series on DVD or Blu-rays. Always tell myself to buy them but never have done it. I only own the movies. All my Trek is stream.
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Post by RobinBland on Apr 10, 2023 20:41:09 GMT
You’ve made me want to go and rewatch it now. It’s just in a different league, a different world to current ST: Picard in terms of writing. Did you watch the extended cut (I think it’s one of the S2 blu-rays)? Or just the regular version? IIRC, the extended cut doesn’t add that much… just a few longer scenes here and there. No. I do not have any of the series on DVD or Blu-rays. Always tell myself to buy them but never have done it. I only own the movies. All my Trek is stream. Ah, you’re not missing much. The story works completely in the screened cut. It’s interesting, but as you noted, you can’t really improve upon perfection.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Apr 16, 2023 22:24:31 GMT
LSTIW:
Picard: "Vox," which was a virtual parade of everything wrong with this series.
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Post by RobinBland on Apr 17, 2023 21:40:21 GMT
LSTIW: Picard: "Vox," which was a virtual parade of everything wrong with this series. Funnily enough, I watched that too.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 18, 2023 23:25:03 GMT
I finished the 3 DS9 episodes sequence on Section 31. Good, wholesome episodes; well, maybe, "Extreme Measures" less satisfying. They should had let Section 31 resting there. Note to future scriptwriters: If the story is calling for some kind of secretive organization working partially on the shadows of Starfleet and the Federation chose the Department of Temporal Investigation instead of S31. DTI at least do not leave this metallic, extrajudicial, criminal, aftertaste in your mouth.
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Post by BeastBoy on Apr 19, 2023 1:16:51 GMT
I finished the 3 DS9 episodes. This episode is so awesome: What do you think about that?
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 19, 2023 2:00:15 GMT
I finished the 3 DS9 episodes. This episode is so awesome: What do you think about that? Yes. A very good one indeed. It proves that DS9 did arcs well, and they manage to fused "episodic" and "seriality" with an uncanny ability. One can go back to this episode and enjoy for what it is in itself, a tale of hubris (Gowron), while also enjoy it for what it contribute to one of its arc, a tale of purpose (Kira). Ahhh, Trek of yore!! So great we have those forever, as antidote to this "Picard" incoherence.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Apr 19, 2023 3:37:45 GMT
LSTIW: Picard: "Vox," which was a virtual parade of everything wrong with this series. Funnily enough, I watched that too. Why am I not surprised?
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Post by BeastBoy on Apr 19, 2023 5:11:38 GMT
Hey guys, you can trust me or not, but "real" Star Trek from 80s and 90s never coming back.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Apr 19, 2023 16:54:26 GMT
Hey guys, you can trust me or not, but "real" Star Trek from 80s and 90s never coming back. I don't trust you JK! Its gonna come back. Just watch. It will be the day after the rapture....or the day after that. But yeah, I agree with you, That Fight with Gowron and Worf was a great payoff after a story that started in TNG.....though I do miss ol' crazy eyes. The Royale- OK this is what I miss from star trek, episodes that weren't considered good, but interested me non-the less. This isn't really a good episode, but for some reason I love it. The whole Twilight Zone-ess of it Note: I just realized just how bad this trailer exaggerates this episode. It's really not this exciting lol.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Apr 20, 2023 1:36:32 GMT
Hey guys, you can trust me or not, but "real" Star Trek from 80s and 90s never coming back. I don't trust you JK! Its gonna come back. Just watch. It will be the day after the rapture....or the day after that. But yeah, I agree with you, That Fight with Gowron and Worf was a great payoff after a story that started in TNG.....though I do miss ol' crazy eyes. The Royale- OK this is what I miss from star trek, episodes that weren't considered good, but interested me non-the less. This isn't really a good episode, but for some reason I love it. The whole Twilight Zone-ess of it Note: I just realized just how bad this trailer exaggerates this episode. It's really not this exciting lol. I kinda like "The Royale" as well; it has kind of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe to it (the end of the movie). I also like how wildly experimental it is, as well. I agree it's not "good" in the traditional sense, but at least you can see what's going on (haha) and not every shot in the episode is a reference or callback to prior Star Treks.
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Post by Garak Nephew on May 26, 2023 13:00:45 GMT
Yesterday I rewatched "Amok Time" and "Mirror, Mirror". Fantastic episodes! We can never praised them enough for how well-written many of TOS episodes were. If your mind really gets into episodes like Amok, you pretty much do not notice that 60's special effects and "scifi" props and imagery have not aged well. And what very good "Mirror, Mirror" in capturing the essence of the main characters but twisted. And Nimoy's acting!!!
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Post by Sehlat Vie on May 26, 2023 13:45:20 GMT
"The Alternative Factor." The story might have been good as an idea when pitched, but the final product is an hour of nebulous exposition that doesn't even lay the groundwork for what it's about until the last 10 minutes. The more I see that one, the less coherent it becomes. Editing by Cuisinart. After finally seeing Vasquez Rocks (the location) for myself two years ago, I watched TAF again, and while it was more fun recognizing specific bits of topography (and how they were cheated to appear more vast than the real location), the rest was just a jumbled mess. And Robert Browne's comically bad facial hair... just what in the actual hell??
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Post by Yorick on May 26, 2023 20:01:50 GMT
"The Alternative Factor." The story might have been good as an idea when pitched, but the final product is an hour of nebulous exposition that doesn't even lay the groundwork for what it's about until the last 10 minutes. The more I see that one, the less coherent it becomes. Editing by Cuisinart. After finally seeing Vasquez Rocks (the location) for myself two years ago, I watched TAF again, and while it was more fun recognizing specific bits of topography (and how they were cheated to appear more vast than the real location), the rest was just a jumbled mess. And Robert Browne's comically bad facial hair... just what in the actual hell?? I completely agree with this evaluation of The Alternative Factor, but all credit to Robert Brown who had to step in at the last possible minute to replace John Drew Barrymore who was a no show on day one of shooting. I think it was Charlton Heston of all people that chewed him out at a SAG hearing because of it.
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Post by BeastBoy on May 26, 2023 21:18:00 GMT
After finally seeing Vasquez Rocks (the location) for myself two years ago Is that place?
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Post by Sehlat Vie on May 30, 2023 4:27:57 GMT
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jun 15, 2023 21:40:58 GMT
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Post by RobinBland on Jun 15, 2023 23:14:01 GMT
I watched the 100th episode of Voyager, Timeless, which I remembered being good. It still is, with its angry future version of a desperate, disillusioned Harry Kim trying to change the timeline. Garrett Wang was never so good as he was here, and it's a shame TPTB didn't give him more stuff like this as the show continued. Excellent coda, too.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jun 16, 2023 1:28:31 GMT
I watched the 100th episode of Voyager, Timeless, which I remembered being good. It still is, with its angry future version of a desperate, disillusioned Harry Kim trying to change the timeline. Garrett Wang was never so good as he was here, and it's a shame TPTB didn't give him more stuff like this as the show continued. Excellent coda, too. I like that one very much. One of my favorite VGRs, even if it falls victim to the maddening reset button...
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Post by ashleytinger on Jun 28, 2023 19:00:34 GMT
I watched the 100th episode of Voyager, Timeless, which I remembered being good. It still is, with its angry future version of a desperate, disillusioned Harry Kim trying to change the timeline. Garrett Wang was never so good as he was here, and it's a shame TPTB didn't give him more stuff like this as the show continued. Excellent coda, too. I like that one very much. One of my favorite VGRs, even if it falls victim to the maddening reset button... A LOT of Voyager episodes fall victim to the dreaded reset button. Year of Hell was so disappointing to me because NONE of the Voyager crew remembered it. Meh. Yesterday's Enterprise was the same way, EXCEPT Guinan at least remembered. And then it had future consequences down the line
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Post by BeastBoy on Jun 28, 2023 19:08:36 GMT
Star Trek The wrath of Khan, this movie is so awesome.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Jun 29, 2023 15:15:52 GMT
I like that one very much. One of my favorite VGRs, even if it falls victim to the maddening reset button... A LOT of Voyager episodes fall victim to the dreaded reset button. Year of Hell was so disappointing to me because NONE of the Voyager crew remembered it. Meh. Yesterday's Enterprise was the same way, EXCEPT Guinan at least remembered. And then it had future consequences down the line It is true Year of Hell was disappointing but ONLY because of the ending. It is still my favorite VOY episode, Annorax is easily the best one-shot villain on Trek. They should had go for a whole season on that time anomaly and some enduring consequences.
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Post by RobinBland on Jun 29, 2023 19:22:17 GMT
I like that one very much. One of my favorite VGRs, even if it falls victim to the maddening reset button... A LOT of Voyager episodes fall victim to the dreaded reset button. Year of Hell was so disappointing to me because NONE of the Voyager crew remembered it. Meh. Yesterday's Enterprise was the same way, EXCEPT Guinan at least remembered. And then it had future consequences down the line I think Timeless was a very similar basic story to YoH, except this time the end actually has an effect on Harry, and a beneficial one so there's a note of hope. But yeah, the reset button was a problem for Voyager.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jul 3, 2023 16:56:27 GMT
A LOT of Voyager episodes fall victim to the dreaded reset button. Year of Hell was so disappointing to me because NONE of the Voyager crew remembered it. Meh. Yesterday's Enterprise was the same way, EXCEPT Guinan at least remembered. And then it had future consequences down the line I think Timeless was a very similar basic story to YoH, except this time the end actually has an effect on Harry, and a beneficial one so there's a note of hope. But yeah, the reset button was a problem for Voyager. It tends to render all the stakes/drama inert. I can accept it once or twice, here and there, as a spice; VGR served it as a main course.
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Post by BeastBoy on Jul 3, 2023 17:16:43 GMT
How cool is that! What do you think about that?
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jul 6, 2023 0:26:05 GMT
How cool is that! What do you think about that? Star Trek VI is the Trek movie I find myself watching most often.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jul 11, 2023 21:17:28 GMT
Watched "Star Trek" (2009) the other night. Really hit the spot. Not the most cerebral Star Trek (not by a long shot) but it's a fun Trek-themed rollercoaster ride, and the actors have fun with their roles.
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Post by BeastBoy on Jul 11, 2023 21:18:36 GMT
Watchd Star Trek Enterprise season 1 episode 4 "Strange new world", this episode is awesome.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Sept 3, 2023 11:58:50 GMT
In the words of T'Pau, I went back "to the time of the beginning" and did a deep-dive on "The Man Trap," the first broadcast episode of Star Trek. Star Trek: The Man Trap review.
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 24, 2024 13:13:43 GMT
Well, I have blu-rays of SNW seasons 1 and 2 on their way to me, so I guess I'll be rewatching those pretty soon.
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