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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 26, 2023 22:05:50 GMT
I actually just watched VOY: Threshold. Not sure why. Perhaps to remind myself how low the bar has been. There's fun in that. It was execrable as I recalled. I've been watching a lot of VOY recently... perhaps my least revisited show prior to the Kurtzman era. Much more good than bad in there... perhaps more than I let myself remember. I wonder if I'll feel the same about Disco in years to come? I also forgot that to treat Paris, he injected him with ANTI-PROTONS.....yes....nothing can go wrong injecting patients with ANTI-MATTER... Since I can't Multi quote, to Beastboy post: I wish sometimes I were Spock. I would have loved to nerve pinch a lot of people with load obnoxious music in public areas. I thought it was hilarious when I first saw it. Then afterwards Kirk had to explain profanity to Spock who then misuses it for the rest of the movie...XD |
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 26, 2023 23:12:27 GMT
I actually just watched VOY: Threshold. Not sure why. Perhaps to remind myself how low the bar has been. There's fun in that. It was execrable as I recalled. I've been watching a lot of VOY recently... perhaps my least revisited show prior to the Kurtzman era. Much more good than bad in there... perhaps more than I let myself remember. I wonder if I'll feel the same about Disco in years to come? I also forgot that to treat Paris, he injected him with ANTI-PROTONS.....yes....nothing can go wrong injecting patients with ANTI-MATTER... Since I can't Multi quote, to Beastboy post: I wish sometimes I were Spock. I would have loved to nerve pinch a lot of people with load obnoxious music in public areas. I thought it was hilarious when I first saw it. Then afterwards Kirk had to explain profanity to Spock who then misuses it for the rest of the movie...XD Not being able to multi-quote is a bit annoying. I've tried to get around it, but gave up and just posted twice. I'm not sure if that's a good thing, but anyway. What do I think of that scene? It's funny. However, I guess nowadays the gag wouldn't play quite as easily. Spock would be lambasted for taking the law into his own hands, or charged with assault. That kind of reduces the opportunity for humor, wouldn't you say? Kirk Thatcher (AKA) should certainly have been a little less antisocial. How do we ever make it to the 23rd century, eh? |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 27, 2023 0:15:14 GMT
"The Alternative Factor."
The story might have been good as an idea when pitched, but the final product is an hour of nebulous exposition that doesn't even lay the groundwork for what it's about until the last 10 minutes.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 27, 2023 4:18:41 GMT
The first time I watched "The Alternative Factor", It was late and the next morning I thought it was a fever dream.
"Azati Prime" (ENT) This episode got me really into watching Enterprise again. With no cable and crappy antenna reception of UPN, I made it a point to visit my relatives who had cable every week for the rest of the season. The NX-01 just gets the hell beat out of her. I mean I was expecting the ship to explode. That was a long mid season break.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 27, 2023 5:09:34 GMT
The first time I watched "The Alternative Factor", It was late and the next morning I thought it was a fever dream. "Azati Prime" (ENT) This episode got me really into watching Enterprise again. With no cable and crappy antenna reception of UPN, I made it a point to visit my relatives who had cable every week for the rest of the season. The NX-01 just gets the hell beat out of her. I mean I was expecting the ship to explode. That was a long mid season break. Honestly, with "Alternative" all there is is 45 minutes of blather about "monsters" and "Gimmie crystals" from one Lazarus who is cryptic and belligerent and another who's about 30 cards short of a full deck. In that hour there's no "two sides." There are no cryptic breadcrumbs left by either in their exchanges that can lead a viewer to make some sort of leap themselves and then watch Kirk and Spock get there or something. It literally doesn't make sense at all until the last 15 minutes and then the "correct" Lazarus is put in front of you and you know he's the right one because he's calm. rational, friendly, and chill. I realize that they couldn't make the right one too obvious, but the whole thing is just one misstep after another. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Jan 28, 2023 1:44:27 GMT
Star Trek The Voyage Home, this movie is so awesome. This scene is so funny, isn't? I love that scene. It's so broad, but it works. Just rewatched Star Treks II, III, IV, V and VI on UHD... V remains pretty terrible to my mind, but among the others there isn't a dud. I love them all. That they used actual people off the street (not actors!) makes it feel broad, but also kinda real, too. Reality, but only slightly heightened. |
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Post by BeastBoy on Jan 28, 2023 11:45:58 GMT
I love that scene. It's so broad, but it works. Just rewatched Star Treks II, III, IV, V and VI on UHD... V remains pretty terrible to my mind, but among the others there isn't a dud. I love them all. That they used actual people off the street (not actors!) makes it feel broad, but also kinda real, too. Reality, but only slightly heightened. Is that true? I did not know that. |
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 28, 2023 20:55:40 GMT
That they used actual people off the street (not actors!) makes it feel broad, but also kinda real, too. Reality, but only slightly heightened. Is that true? I did not know that. Yes, it's true. It's why some of the responses sound so naturalistic. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 1, 2023 20:55:25 GMT
Watching that last Picard S3 trailer put me in the mood for some TNG so I watched:
The Chase
Second Chances
Timescape
All S6, one of the strongest overall seasons of the show, I feel.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 1, 2023 21:19:17 GMT
Watching that last Picard S3 trailer put me in the mood for some TNG so I watched: The Chase Second Chances Timescape All S6, one of the strongest overall seasons of the show, I feel. The Chase is top notch. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 1, 2023 23:46:06 GMT
So much fun, that episode.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 2, 2023 1:58:32 GMT
Watching that last Picard S3 trailer put me in the mood for some TNG so I watched: The Chase Second Chances Timescape All S6, one of the strongest overall seasons of the show, I feel. Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. |
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Post by BeastBoy on Feb 2, 2023 2:10:19 GMT
Watching that last Picard S3 trailer put me in the mood for some TNG so I watched: The Chase Second Chances Timescape All S6, one of the strongest overall seasons of the show, I feel. Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. Yes, I love the sixth season too. What do you think about this episode? |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 2, 2023 2:22:35 GMT
Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. Yes, I love the sixth season too. What do you think about this episode? One of my favorites. |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 2, 2023 4:18:51 GMT
"Sins of the Father" TNG. Never found out if Kurn ever retrieved his Memory after Martok became Chancellor.
Edit: I forgot how overselling the trailer narrator was in the first few seasons LOL!!!
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 6, 2023 20:31:41 GMT
Watching that last Picard S3 trailer put me in the mood for some TNG so I watched: The Chase Second Chances Timescape All S6, one of the strongest overall seasons of the show, I feel. Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. S2 presents an intriguing direction the show could've pursued even with Michael Piller's focus on character. I really enjoyed the whacky SF/fantasy concepts that are strewn throughout S2. So I watched Time Squared, which is another one of those. You don't really get a resolution, just an escape. We never find out what the time funnel thing really is. Also watched Descent, parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is... okay? It's sort an exercise in watching the writer's room literally make it up as they go along, hoping. for the best. I actually fell asleep during part 2. Five minutes in, it just tripped a switch in my late-night brain that recognised I'd seen it before and there's really nothing there to see again, and my sleep centre just put the lights out. Which is pretty much how the rest of S7 goes, really, until Parallels (which, weirdly, is one of the best eps of TNG ever). |
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 6, 2023 22:24:02 GMT
Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. S2 presents an intriguing direction the show could've pursued even with Michael Piller's focus on character. I really enjoyed the whacky SF/fantasy concepts that are strewn throughout S2. So I watched Time Squared, which is another one of those. You don't really get a resolution, just an escape. We never find out what the time funnel thing really is.Also watched Descent, parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is... okay? It's sort an exercise in watching the writer's room literally make it up as they go along, hoping. for the best. I actually fell asleep during part 2. Five minutes in, it just tripped a switch in my late-night brain that recognised I'd seen it before and there's really nothing there to see again, and my sleep centre just put the lights out. Which is pretty much how the rest of S7 goes, really, until Parallels (which, weirdly, is one of the best eps of TNG ever). I just watched that one last night myself. And you're right. We never found out what that thing was nor did they even bother to investigate it. (You know, in case another ship is likely to get caught in it) I might as well post the preview for that one, because these old trailers are just so over the top its hilarious I love how "Picard's identical twin from the future traps the Enterprise in a deadly time warp"......THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENED!!! |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 6, 2023 23:45:01 GMT
Season 6 is one of my favorites; there were a lot of gems in that season. 2, 3 and 6 are the seasons I tend to go back to the most with TNG. S2 presents an intriguing direction the show could've pursued even with Michael Piller's focus on character. I really enjoyed the whacky SF/fantasy concepts that are strewn throughout S2. So I watched Time Squared, which is another one of those. You don't really get a resolution, just an escape. We never find out what the time funnel thing really is. Also watched Descent, parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is... okay? It's sort an exercise in watching the writer's room literally make it up as they go along, hoping. for the best. I actually fell asleep during part 2. Five minutes in, it just tripped a switch in my late-night brain that recognised I'd seen it before and there's really nothing there to see again, and my sleep centre just put the lights out. Which is pretty much how the rest of S7 goes, really, until Parallels (which, weirdly, is one of the best eps of TNG ever). Oddly, I never felt like I needed to know. I actually sort of like it better as a "mysteries of teh universe" thing. "Descent, II" is just this weird reason for Spiner to play cult leader and for Hugh to inexplicably blame the crew for what happened after he returned to the Borg. It's quite empty. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 7, 2023 21:38:11 GMT
S2 presents an intriguing direction the show could've pursued even with Michael Piller's focus on character. I really enjoyed the whacky SF/fantasy concepts that are strewn throughout S2. So I watched Time Squared, which is another one of those. You don't really get a resolution, just an escape. We never find out what the time funnel thing really is. Also watched Descent, parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is... okay? It's sort an exercise in watching the writer's room literally make it up as they go along, hoping. for the best. I actually fell asleep during part 2. Five minutes in, it just tripped a switch in my late-night brain that recognised I'd seen it before and there's really nothing there to see again, and my sleep centre just put the lights out. Which is pretty much how the rest of S7 goes, really, until Parallels (which, weirdly, is one of the best eps of TNG ever). Oddly, I never felt like I needed to know. I actually sort of like it better as a "mysteries of teh universe" thing. "Descent, II" is just this weird reason for Spiner to play cult leader and for Hugh to inexplicably blame the crew for what happened after he returned to the Borg. It's quite empty. No, I don't need to know either - it's part of that whole "Here be dragons" vibe of TNG S2, which they kinda lost when Piller came on board and it all became far more character based. "Empty" is an excellent way of describing Descent. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 8, 2023 4:48:47 GMT
S2 presents an intriguing direction the show could've pursued even with Michael Piller's focus on character. I really enjoyed the whacky SF/fantasy concepts that are strewn throughout S2. So I watched Time Squared, which is another one of those. You don't really get a resolution, just an escape. We never find out what the time funnel thing really is. Also watched Descent, parts 1 and 2. Part 1 is... okay? It's sort an exercise in watching the writer's room literally make it up as they go along, hoping. for the best. I actually fell asleep during part 2. Five minutes in, it just tripped a switch in my late-night brain that recognised I'd seen it before and there's really nothing there to see again, and my sleep centre just put the lights out. Which is pretty much how the rest of S7 goes, really, until Parallels (which, weirdly, is one of the best eps of TNG ever). Oddly, I never felt like I needed to know. I actually sort of like it better as a "mysteries of teh universe" thing. "Descent, II" is just this weird reason for Spiner to play cult leader and for Hugh to inexplicably blame the crew for what happened after he returned to the Borg. It's quite empty. I love "Time Squared" (it's so typically season 2; very experimental, with a teensy bit of S1's campy funk), and yes, regarding S6's Descent II? I absolutely agree. A big nothing burger. No growth for Data whatsoever. |
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Post by BeastBoy on Feb 8, 2023 5:45:17 GMT
This episode is so awesome. One of my favorite episode.
What do you think about that?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 8, 2023 15:16:08 GMT
It's actually a pretty stand-out episode for the entire series, much less S2.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 8, 2023 16:44:06 GMT
I mentioned this before. The destruction of the Yamato in "Contagion" really disturbed me. I was like "Oh the saucer is gonna survive" only for the antimatter to "Eat" it away like an acid. Really, I might as well watched a person get slowly dissolved. The episode did introduce the Iconians (Which were a plot point for the SNES and GENESIS/Mega-Drive game) which were also a plot point for the s4 DS9 episode where we finally see a Pylon get knock off the station.
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 8, 2023 18:31:46 GMT
Contagion is another standout TNG S2 episode, an episode co-written by the comics legend Steve Gerber (creator of Howard the Duck. Don't think about the movie; the comics were fantastic).
The whole "shut down and reboot" solution is a little, er obvious by today's standards now that every household has a computer, but back when it aired this was out-of-the-box thinking.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 8, 2023 22:12:26 GMT
Contagion is another standout TNG S2 episode, an episode co-written by the comics legend Steve Gerber (creator of Howard the Duck. Don't think about the movie; the comics were fantastic). The whole "shut down and reboot" solution is a little, er obvious by today's standards now that every household has a computer, but back when it aired this was out-of-the-box thinking. Yeah. I was like "Well, that was obvious". But I go to thinking and was like, "Wait the Enterprise-D is a very very automated machine. No one ever thinks of shutting her completely down." And you have to think, the main computer takes up every deck at the very center of the saucer, and also, I don't think it was so much as a "Shutdown" where documents are saved and what not, but actually a forced shutoff. Where the entire RAM is cleared, unsaved documents are lost, and all changes to the memory since last startup is lost...like the "unplug, hold the power button for 30 seconds then plug back up to reset" type shutdown. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 8, 2023 22:46:16 GMT
Contagion is another standout TNG S2 episode, an episode co-written by the comics legend Steve Gerber (creator of Howard the Duck. Don't think about the movie; the comics were fantastic). The whole "shut down and reboot" solution is a little, er obvious by today's standards now that every household has a computer, but back when it aired this was out-of-the-box thinking. Yeah. I was like "Well, that was obvious". But I go to thinking and was like, "Wait the Enterprise-D is a very very automated machine. No one ever thinks of shutting her completely down." And you have to think, the main computer takes up every deck at the very center of the saucer, and also, I don't think it was so much as a "Shutdown" where documents are saved and what not, but actually a forced shutoff. Where the entire RAM is cleared, unsaved documents are lost, and all changes to the memory since last startup is lost...like the "unplug, hold the power button for 30 seconds then plug back up to reset" type shutdown. On one hand, I get it. Everything is so advanced with self-monitoring and repair that there are problems you just don't see or anticipate because the computer fixes itself without even telling you about it. On the other hand, there are backup files in the main core for a reason. Someone thought of the possibility when designing the ship and planned for it. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 9, 2023 2:34:13 GMT
Contagion is another standout TNG S2 episode, an episode co-written by the comics legend Steve Gerber (creator of Howard the Duck. Don't think about the movie; the comics were fantastic). The whole "shut down and reboot" solution is a little, er obvious by today's standards now that every household has a computer, but back when it aired this was out-of-the-box thinking. Hey...it worked for Jurassic Park.   |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 10, 2023 0:05:12 GMT
I bet no-one builds overrides like that into eveything coming out of Silicon Valley and similar these days.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 10, 2023 15:43:18 GMT
"Spectre of the Gun" (TOS). People give season 3 a really hard time, but theres quite a few episodes I like. This being one of them. The half sets and mood is really eerie, and almost has a Twilight Zone feel to it
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 10, 2023 15:52:12 GMT
It is one of the highlights of S3.
For me though, fully half the season runs from groan-worthy, to unwatchable.
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