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Post by scenario on Feb 8, 2023 21:43:03 GMT
So they are introducing a boatload of new characters while bringing back a bunch of older characters while dumping the new characters they spent two years fleshing out. Sounds like a mess to me.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 8, 2023 21:43:21 GMT
LOL.
I just desperately hope it greatly exceeds my expectations.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Feb 8, 2023 22:23:05 GMT
1. From the Trailer, I don't like the captian. Kill him off first please!
2. Every single one of those pictures I am like, wow, its USS Voyager at red alert. What? That's Standard lighting? Then how dark does it get at Red alert? That bridge has 50,000 lights on the walls and ceiling, and just can't illuminate itself. And that seems to be a problem with the Entire 25th century. There's a light shortage of some sort, and a plague of light-brown hues on every planet including Earth. Everything in the universe seems to be desert color.
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 10, 2023 0:02:14 GMT
So they are introducing a boatload of new characters while bringing back a bunch of older characters while dumping the new characters they spent two years fleshing out. Sounds like a mess to me.  Yup! Well, less than two weeks to go, folks... I remember that the first two episodes of S2 went over really well, not just with us, but everywhere. Then there was a rapid descent into mid-season sag from which it never recovered. I wonder what the shape of this season will be like... |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 10, 2023 0:27:11 GMT
So they are introducing a boatload of new characters while bringing back a bunch of older characters while dumping the new characters they spent two years fleshing out. Sounds like a mess to me. Yup! Well, less than two weeks to go, folks... I remember that the first two episodes of S2 went over really well, not just with us, but everywhere. Then there was a rapid descent into mid-season sag from which it never recovered. I wonder what the shape of this season will be like... I will never not think of S2, E1 as one of the best hours of Trek in 57 years. Then it all just went, so, so wrong. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 11, 2023 0:14:50 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 11, 2023 4:39:11 GMT
LOL. I really wanna like it, I swear.  I am hopeful. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 11, 2023 16:17:23 GMT
Me too.  I read the Altman review now and if he likes it, the signs are... positive. Still keeping my hopes burning as low as possible though. He really made me laugh with his honesty about how he was more or less blackballed by Trek luminaries at the time for being honest in his reviews of Generations and Insurrection. Seriously, although I love Generations (more for very personal and nostalgic reasons than of it being even halfway a good film), no-one could call either of those movies as among the best of the Star Trek big screen outings. Also, now that's he's more firmly a showrunner/film honcho himself, he's a lot more careful in his criticisms! |
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Post by Garak Nephew on Feb 11, 2023 17:20:03 GMT
I am glad that the Okudas are part of the mix. Their vision is the right vision when it comes to TNG. There is a sort of macro panorama to the Okudas' that happily associates to Trek. My hopes are up a couple of notches... but not too high.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 12, 2023 1:08:11 GMT
I am a big fan of Altman; both his work, and as a person. He's great. If you're able, watch his semi-biographical comedy "Free Enterprise" (1998) sometime; it's our generation encapsulated. This was me, with Altman (left) and Daren Dochtermann (right) on the right. We were sharing a few laughs and good memories about Galactica 1980 at the time.  However, as much as I respect his opinion, I am NOT reading the spoilers or early reviews, because I don't want their (respected) opinions to influence my own, when I see the first episode next week. That said, I'm hopeful, all the same. ^ Sherlock makes a good point. Did the 25th century pay its electric bill??? |
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Post by The Founder on Feb 12, 2023 18:06:00 GMT
I'm pretty excited for it. To be blunt, when Patrick Stewart announced he's returning the character of Picard - I thought he meant Jean-Luc Picard and the TNG cast, secondary roles or not, to be returning. I had no idea he meant the random adventures of pirate Picard.
I am tempering my high hopes, though. Because I know I'll set myself up for disappointment. I just hope this ends up at least being an enjoyable season and better send off to the TNG crew than Nemesis was meant to be.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 12, 2023 18:11:53 GMT
I'm pretty excited for it. To be blunt, when Patrick Stewart announced he's returning the character of Picard - I thought he meant Jean-Luc Picard and the TNG cast, secondary roles or not, to be returning. I had no idea he meant the random adventures of pirate Picard. I am tempering my high hopes, though. Because I know I'll set myself up for disappointment. I just hope this ends up at least being an enjoyable season and better send off to the TNG crew than Nemesis was meant to be. I'm just hoping it's better than the first two seasons. |
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Post by The Founder on Feb 12, 2023 22:51:34 GMT
I'm pretty excited for it. To be blunt, when Patrick Stewart announced he's returning the character of Picard - I thought he meant Jean-Luc Picard and the TNG cast, secondary roles or not, to be returning. I had no idea he meant the random adventures of pirate Picard. I am tempering my high hopes, though. Because I know I'll set myself up for disappointment. I just hope this ends up at least being an enjoyable season and better send off to the TNG crew than Nemesis was meant to be. I'm just hoping it's better than the first two seasons. Literally that's all I'm shooting for at this point. I honestly don't mean that in an ugly, negative way. I think I'll be satisfied as a viewer if it's a step up from the first two seasons (which a lot of reviews from both fans and critics of the earlier seasons seem to be in alignment on). |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 13, 2023 14:30:16 GMT
I'm just hoping it's better than the first two seasons. Literally that's all I'm shooting for at this point. I honestly don't mean that in an ugly, negative way. I think I'll be satisfied as a viewer if it's a step up from the first two seasons (which a lot of reviews from both fans and critics of the earlier seasons seem to be in alignment on). I liked a lot of what the first season aimed for. In fact, I would've been perfectly okay if PIC S1 was a miniseries that simply ended with Picard entering an unknown future as an android. Yeah, I didn't care for the hugger-mugger Romulan nonsense, but overall, it was okay. The second season, after a wonderful opening episode, went to hell very quickly. I agree with earlier comments made by Robin Bland; it's quite possibly the worst season of Star Trek EVER. So, for me, this upcoming third season has a very low bar to meet. I'm still nervous about a full-on TNG reunion, but in the words of Jack Skellington, "Well...may as well give them what they want." |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 13, 2023 18:25:21 GMT
S1 wasn't bad. Took a while to get started and was not perhaps the exhilarating ride you hope for from Star Trek, and the incestuous Romulan GoT-inspired villains were pretty much a disaster. But it did have its moments, reached for something new, which is admirable, and introduced some genuinely likeable new characters. Plus, as an outro for Data, it provided something quite beautiful and satisfying. Overall, I liked it.
After the first two episodes, I didn't like S2 at all, and think it might be the most inept and misconceived season of Kurtzman-era Trek alongside S1 of Discovery.
So, yeah, S3 doesn't really have to be that great to do better than the first two.
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 15, 2023 19:53:30 GMT
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Post by The Founder on Feb 16, 2023 3:53:01 GMT
Literally that's all I'm shooting for at this point. I honestly don't mean that in an ugly, negative way. I think I'll be satisfied as a viewer if it's a step up from the first two seasons (which a lot of reviews from both fans and critics of the earlier seasons seem to be in alignment on). I liked a lot of what the first season aimed for. In fact, I would've been perfectly okay if PIC S1 was a miniseries that simply ended with Picard entering an unknown future as an android. Yeah, I didn't care for the hugger-mugger Romulan nonsense, but overall, it was okay. The second season, after a wonderful opening episode, went to hell very quickly. I agree with earlier comments made by Robin Bland; it's quite possibly the worst season of Star Trek EVER. So, for me, this upcoming third season has a very low bar to meet. I'm still nervous about a full-on TNG reunion, but in the words of Jack Skellington, "Well...may as well give them what they want." Looking forward to your review. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 16, 2023 4:40:29 GMT
I liked a lot of what the first season aimed for. In fact, I would've been perfectly okay if PIC S1 was a miniseries that simply ended with Picard entering an unknown future as an android. Yeah, I didn't care for the hugger-mugger Romulan nonsense, but overall, it was okay. The second season, after a wonderful opening episode, went to hell very quickly. I agree with earlier comments made by Robin Bland; it's quite possibly the worst season of Star Trek EVER. So, for me, this upcoming third season has a very low bar to meet. I'm still nervous about a full-on TNG reunion, but in the words of Jack Skellington, "Well...may as well give them what they want." Looking forward to your review. Thanks. Hopefully I can have it out by Friday (?). |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 17, 2023 19:06:33 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 17, 2023 19:51:04 GMT
I saw that. Super enjoyable. |
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I am so sorry...
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