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Post by Garak Nephew on Feb 19, 2023 4:00:51 GMT
A discussion about this awesome show started on another thread, but I figure it deserved its own thread. I am just half way 3rd season and it really have something to say.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Feb 19, 2023 4:31:59 GMT
Episode five, "The Tale of Two Topas", really moved me to tears by the end. Such well crafted trans allegory, kudos to McFarlane for writing it and directing it. It was not only deeply effective emotionally -aimed at the heart of our current cultural and political climate- but it also seamlessly integrated to the show macro plot lines of galactic politics and the nature of artificial intelligence. Like DS9 best episodes ("Second Skin", "In the Pale Moonlight", "It's Only a paper Moon"...) it weaved into the show base arguments (the Union conflicts and the necessity of alliances, the integration between biological and artificial life forms) a striking tale of a trans kid coming of age and her realization of her highly toxic historical and parental background. The tension between Bortus and Klyden was superb.
Even the archeological background of the episode was well integrated. The discovery of the ancient artifacts of a long gone civilization, played to the plot line of Topas discovering her buried female self; like the work of an archeologist, Topas must uncovered the layers that cultural tradition have hindered her to see her true self. Superb science fiction!
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Post by nombrecomun on Feb 19, 2023 18:53:36 GMT
As many have said elsewhere, The Orville is the best Trek in years.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Mar 13, 2023 3:05:54 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyable third season!!! Some episodes missed the mark and the last episode missed it hugely, but overall a pretty solid season. We can only hope they somehow manage to grind another season, the current climate appears to be looking on a different direction.
The whole sequence (Ep. 8 "Midnight Blue") of the colony of female Moclans and their leader Haveena receiving a holographic visit of Dolly Parton is just fantastic TV.
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Post by ashleytinger on Mar 13, 2023 17:30:15 GMT
Loved the third season. I doubt we get a fourth but if that was the last season we get of Orville, it's the way you write out a swan song for your show
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Mar 15, 2023 2:29:44 GMT
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 6, 2023 20:30:00 GMT
Great and thorough review! Thanks. I really enjoyed the series, specially the third season. They found a precise balance on the third between idea-driven scifi and humor. The Topa story-line was current and thoughtful. Me only objection was that Klyden reversal of character and subsequent acceptance of his daughter lacked context, it needed a little more fleshing-out. Awesome TNG homage, they deserve a new season, and we deserve it too.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Apr 7, 2023 0:34:54 GMT
Great and thorough review! Thanks. I really enjoyed the series, specially the third season. They found a precise balance on the third between idea-driven scifi and humor. The Topa story-line was current and thoughtful. Me only objection was that Klyden reversal of character and subsequent acceptance of his daughter lacked context, it needed a little more fleshing-out. Awesome TNG homage, they deserve a new season, and we deserve it too. Thanks! And yes, I agree that a little more would've been nice to explain Klyden's change of heart, but I could still attribute it to the fact that he simply missed Topa and Bortus, however simplistic that explanation may sound.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Feb 29, 2024 19:56:43 GMT
A nuanced take on how The Orville struck a right balance between parody and drama. Give us season 4!!
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Mar 5, 2024 5:03:37 GMT
A nuanced take on how The Orville struck a right balance between parody and drama. Give us season 4!!
It definitely evolved into much more than a Star Trek parody; that narrow niche only lasted for a few episodes or so. After that, it basically became an alternate (and equally valid) Star Trek.
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