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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 16, 2023 6:29:53 GMT
Caught the premiere and it's absolutely on point. The atmosphere. The world-building. All of the best elements of the game (and there were many) are here> There isn't a lot to say about Joel and Ellie quite yet, as this first episode is basically an introduction, but I'm very excited to see more.
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Post by SherlockHolmes on Jan 17, 2023 4:18:20 GMT
I don't think I could get into it. The Zombie genre has been done to death.
Also, if it follows the game, I would hate it anyway. Last of Us 2 went awry with its writing. I stopped caring for it after that.
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 23, 2023 18:29:44 GMT
I don't think I could get into it. The Zombie genre has been done to death. I feel this way. I lasted about 2 episodes in The Walking Dead. I haven't played the game so I don't know what to expect. I just hope it doesn't do the usual thing of having this mostly be a platform to discuss human social dynamics. If you're gonna include zombies then make them the central threat, not aggressive mid-40's male gang leader or some equivalent. From what I gather, the zombies in TWD were somewhat of a backdrop to human affairs. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 23, 2023 18:33:13 GMT
I don't think I could get into it. The Zombie genre has been done to death. I feel this way. I lasted about 2 episodes in The Walking Dead. I haven't played the game so I don't know what to expect. I just hope it doesn't do the usual thing of having this mostly be a platform to discuss human social dynamics. If you're gonna include zombies then make them the central threat, not aggressive mid-40's male gang leader or some equivalent. From what I gather, the zombies in TWD were somewhat of a backdrop to human affairs. Not much in the way of that so far. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 24, 2023 1:12:38 GMT
I also enjoyed the main actor's daughter. I appreciated how much time was spent on her. It feels like she's gonna be the main protagonist....and then. Nico Parker was excellent in the role. I wish this character had a different outcome but then it wouldn't go along with the game.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 30, 2023 5:33:23 GMT
Tonight's episode was nothing short of absolutely beautiful.
Will absolutely watch it again, but I need time to absorb it in all its uplifting, heartbreaking glory.
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Post by nombrecomun on Jan 31, 2023 0:00:04 GMT
Tonight's episode was nothing short of absolutely beautiful. Will absolutely watch it again, but I need time to absorb it in all its uplifting, heartbreaking glory. Fantastic episode. It amazes me how other franchises can have these well written, emotional, relationship driven stories and nuTrek has a cheap knock off version. I don't understand how Paramount, with all its money, can't produce similar quality content for Trek. Just these 3 episodes of The Last Of Us give us way more than all seasons of STD and STP combined. It makes me sad. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 31, 2023 1:31:18 GMT
Tonight's episode was nothing short of absolutely beautiful. Will absolutely watch it again, but I need time to absorb it in all its uplifting, heartbreaking glory. Fantastic episode. It amazes me how other franchises can have these well written, emotional, relationship driven stories and nuTrek has a cheap knock off version. I don't understand how Paramount, with all its money, can't produce similar quality content for Trek. Just these 3 episodes of The Last Of Us give us way more than all seasons of STD and STP combined. It makes me sad. It just shows me that no genre is "played out." Zombie shows? The Last of Us has been consistently great so far. TWD is played out. That universe is played out. Good writing and good production matter. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 8, 2023 21:29:22 GMT
Fantastic episode. It amazes me how other franchises can have these well written, emotional, relationship driven stories and nuTrek has a cheap knock off version. I don't understand how Paramount, with all its money, can't produce similar quality content for Trek. Just these 3 episodes of The Last Of Us give us way more than all seasons of STD and STP combined. It makes me sad. It just shows me that no genre is "played out." Zombie shows? The Last of Us has been consistently great so far. TWD is played out. That universe is played out. Good writing and good production matter. I didn't think I'd have the stamina to deal with his after that first (excellent) episode. When Pedro Pascal's daughter meets her fate, I was kind of done, and I know it's because I was being an oversensitive father of a teenage girl of roughly the same age, and also I'm feeling a bit apocalypsed out. After the past three years of entertaining such scenarios in the real world, I just didn't feel like I needed this in my life. But on the strength of feeling here, maybe I'll give it another go. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 8, 2023 21:41:57 GMT
It just shows me that no genre is "played out." Zombie shows? The Last of Us has been consistently great so far. TWD is played out. That universe is played out. Good writing and good production matter. I didn't think I'd have the stamina to deal with his after that first (excellent) episode. When Pedro Pascal's daughter meets her fate, I was kind of done, and I know it's because I was being an oversensitive father of a teenage girl of roughly the same age, and also I'm feeling a bit apocalypsed out. After the past three years of entertaining such scenarios in the real world, I just didn't feel like I needed this in my life. But on the strength of feeling here, maybe I'll give it another go. I highly recommend it. It's just good television and Ep 3 is really something. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Feb 9, 2023 2:48:14 GMT
I didn't think I'd have the stamina to deal with his after that first (excellent) episode. When Pedro Pascal's daughter meets her fate, I was kind of done, and I know it's because I was being an oversensitive father of a teenage girl of roughly the same age, and also I'm feeling a bit apocalypsed out. After the past three years of entertaining such scenarios in the real world, I just didn't feel like I needed this in my life. But on the strength of feeling here, maybe I'll give it another go. I highly recommend it. It's just good television and Ep 3 is really something. I gave up after E1, too, and yes, I've been hearing extraordinary things about the following episodes, so yeah, maybe when the season's over, I might get it a retry. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Feb 9, 2023 4:42:42 GMT
It just shows me that no genre is "played out." Zombie shows? The Last of Us has been consistently great so far. TWD is played out. That universe is played out. Good writing and good production matter. I didn't think I'd have the stamina to deal with his after that first (excellent) episode. When Pedro Pascal's daughter meets her fate, I was kind of done, and I know it's because I was being an oversensitive father of a teenage girl of roughly the same age, and also I'm feeling a bit apocalypsed out. After the past three years of entertaining such scenarios in the real world, I just didn't feel like I needed this in my life. But on the strength of feeling here, maybe I'll give it another go. I get it. I don't blame you. I'm sure The Walking Dead was a great show but I couldn't watch it. Something dumb happened in the second episode or so and I was out. I also don't care for zombies either. I'm not sure why I'm giving this series a chance. Maybe it's the actors. I'm sure there will be a point in which I feel "apocalypsed out" as you say. I don't usually like the predictable set up of dysfunctional violent society with an over the top violent leader(Mad Max type of post-apocalyptic society) with the back burning ever present zombie to jump out and say 'boo' at appropriate times. Yet...this is working for me. So far. You know....I would venture to say skip the first 2 eps and just watch the 3rd. It's basically a stand alone ep that happens to be a very touching story. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 9, 2023 5:35:46 GMT
I didn't think I'd have the stamina to deal with his after that first (excellent) episode. When Pedro Pascal's daughter meets her fate, I was kind of done, and I know it's because I was being an oversensitive father of a teenage girl of roughly the same age, and also I'm feeling a bit apocalypsed out. After the past three years of entertaining such scenarios in the real world, I just didn't feel like I needed this in my life. But on the strength of feeling here, maybe I'll give it another go. I get it. I don't blame you. I'm sure The Walking Dead was a great show but I couldn't watch it. Something dumb happened in the second episode or so and I was out. I also don't care for zombies either. I'm not sure why I'm giving this series a chance. Maybe it's the actors. I'm sure there will be a point in which I feel "apocalypsed out" as you say. I don't usually like the predictable set up of dysfunctional violent society with an over the top violent leader(Mad Max type of post-apocalyptic society) with the back burning ever present zombie to jump out and say 'boo' at appropriate times. Yet...this is working for me. So far. You know....I would venture to say skip the first 2 eps and just watch the 3rd. It's basically a stand alone ep that happens to be a very touching story. Maybe because it's not all the usual zombie survival group tropes. There are aways certain personality archetypes and then they all have to have screen time and so it sort of feels like, after awhile a series of checked boxes. But here, at least for now, and if the show continues to follow the overall arc of the game, it's about Ellie and Joel, so all of the writing effort has to be put into those two people, and so there's no room for crap writing that can just be spackled over by playing, "Hey, look at this guy over here you might like better." They have to get these people right because, with just two people driving the whole thing there's nowhere to hide. |
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Post by RobinBland on Feb 10, 2023 0:19:47 GMT
I really, really like Pedro Pascal and will basically watch anything he's in... so yeah, it was a surprise to me that I just couldn't face going further than Ep 1. They almost did too good a job with that opening. It was a genuine tour de force - it just worked a little too well on me.
Maybe I'll do as you suggest, Prome, and watch Ep 3 and see how I fare with it.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 10, 2023 0:25:25 GMT
I really, really like Pedro Pascal and will basically watch anything he's in... so yeah, it was a surprise to me that I just couldn't face going further than Ep 1. They almost did too good a job with that opening. It was a genuine tour de force - it just worked a little too well on me. Maybe I'll do as you suggest, Prome, and watch Ep 3 and see how I fare with it. It's a bit of a detour from the main story, so I suspect that will help you ease back into it if you've a mind to. |
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Post by ashleytinger on Feb 20, 2023 2:33:08 GMT
Last of Us, not going to lie, will rip your heart out, but it's exceedingly well done. The fact they're being faithful to the game for the tone and the way things play out is outstanding.
I binged all the 5 that were out today. Episode 3 made me sob. Not going to lie. Episode 5 was heartbreaking too. There are some of the zombie tropes but they don't fall into them. Not completely anyway. The game did that more often since it was more combat oriented around the story.
So, SO damned good.
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Post by nombrecomun on Feb 20, 2023 18:48:13 GMT
You know, you really could just remove the zombie element of this series and it still works as an apocalypse type world. Maybe like The Road. The emphasis is on the story and the characters. Not the 'jump scare' zombies. It was the little moments in that movie that I enjoyed the most. For example when the dad finds Coke and shares it with his son as remembrance of the world that was that the son will never see.
Speaking of the zombies though, I hope whatever story line unfolds about them(we've really not gotten much) revolves more around a scientific approach rather than just a threat to be used conveniently like in the previous ep.
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Post by ashleytinger on Feb 21, 2023 16:43:47 GMT
The latest episode has a mini Nothern Exposure reuinion in it the first few minutes of the episode. =)
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 21, 2023 23:34:41 GMT
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Post by nombrecomun on Feb 27, 2023 18:52:27 GMT
SPOILERS for Ep 7 Left Behind
This is the first ep I haven't liked. I can't stand to see youth portrayed so foolishly. I can see two present day teens whooping it up in a similar circumstance at an abandoned mall. But I can't see that for any human post apocalypse. They would be cautious, fearful, etc...It would have made more sense had they been there for perhaps days and gradually got careless in their behaviour.
I think it was evident that this would be the scenario in which Ellie would get infected so the whole episode is just a "watch until it happens". As such it gets to be practically a filler ep for me. I wish they would have gotten to the infection midway and then dealt with the impact of it for the rest of the ep. Perhaps that's ep 8.
On the plus side, I do get how the ep tugs at those nostalgic strings with the mall setting. Even now in some areas of America, the mall is a dying thing. I get it. The arcade, the carousel, etc...
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 27, 2023 19:59:41 GMT
SPOILERS for Ep 7 Left Behind This is the first ep I haven't liked. I can't stand to see youth portrayed so foolishly. I can see two present day teens whooping it up in a similar circumstance at an abandoned mall. But I can't see that for any human post apocalypse. They would be cautious, fearful, etc...It would have made more sense had they been there for perhaps days and gradually got careless in their behaviour. I think it was evident that this would be the scenario in which Ellie would get infected so the whole episode is just a "watch until it happens". As such it gets to be practically a filler ep for me. I wish they would have gotten to the infection midway and then dealt with the impact of it for the rest of the ep. Perhaps that's ep 8. On the plus side, I do get how the ep tugs at those nostalgic strings with the mall setting. Even now in some areas of America, the mall is a dying thing. I get it. The arcade, the carousel, etc... I can agree with that. I still liked the episode and I can see them thinking they're alone and wanting to play as though they're normal. But they are in the world that they're in. You still try to be normal quietly. As for malls, they are indeed dying. In fact, some areas with dead malls and little undeveloped land are turning them into sprawling apartment complexes. I know the one nearest me is pretty consistently devoid of people. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 6, 2023 23:47:48 GMT
Ep 8: When We Are In Need
SPOILERS
Good self contained ep. Nice to see Joel back on his feet and Ellie being able to stand her ground as well.
My only quibble with this ep is that while shit is going down there's no one else from the community cult around. Maybe I missed some line of dialog saying they were working at the mines or something like that.
It would have also been interesting to see the reaction of the community finding out that they were reluctant cannibals and had the leader been around.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 7, 2023 4:33:56 GMT
Ep 8: When We Are In Need SPOILERS Good self contained ep. Nice to see Joel back on his feet and Ellie being able to stand her ground as well. My only quibble with this ep is that while shit is going down there's no one else from the community cult around. Maybe I missed some line of dialog saying they were working at the mines or something like that. It would have also been interesting to see the reaction of the community finding out that they were reluctant cannibals and had the leader been around. That's what I chalked it up to. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 13, 2023 19:29:13 GMT
S1 Finale SPOILERS!!! So the first season of alternate Mandalorian finished.  It's been a solid season. I wasn't too sold on this last ep even though it's still good. The characters stop to have somewhat of a heart to heart in the open air Army emergency site surrounding by buildings. Joel should have had a heightened sense of awareness. After all, that's what they do themselves. While it was a great scene to see the guards approaching from the back, I felt it was not quite believable. I also cringed when Ellie starts running throughout the building to follow what turns out to be the giraffes. By this point, I feel her character should have been more road weary, battle hardened so to speak to know much better than to do something like that. It doesn't feel natural to the setting. I need to watch this scene again because perhaps I missed who mentioned that the cordyceps is wrapped around the brain. It seems like Joel knew that already. If so then why would he escort Ellie there? The Fireflies knew they were going to kill Ellie. I suppose they assumed that Joel still thought of her as a 'package'. Job done and keep walking. But....they wouldn't think that he would bond with her having spent a year(?) with her? They should have just killed Joel outside in the Army camp after they threw the flash grenade. Granted, no more show but I wish they would have worked on some other way they encounter the Fireflies rather than what we got. I suppose the end would still be the same. We have to 'have' an action end. The question at the end is whether Ellie believes Joel's word about what happened to the Fireflies. I'm not quite sure she accepts his word but understands that to continue having some semblance of normal life they have to come to some understanding of the events. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 13, 2023 19:49:08 GMT
As to whether or not she believes him, the answer is "No." That's a huge plot element of the second game. She knows he lied up and down the way, and it's driven a wedge between them.
That said, in all that time she has never asked what happened and what the lies were and she's mad at herself as much as him because, deep down, she knows she's complicit on some level because she doesn't ask and doesn't wanna know.
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 13, 2023 21:05:31 GMT
As to whether or not she believes him, the answer is "No." That's a huge plot element of the second game. She knows he lied up and down the way, and it's driven a wedge between them. That said, in all that time she has never asked what happened and what the lies were and she's mad at herself as much as him because, deep down, she knows she's complicit on some level because she doesn't ask and doesn't wanna know. Then that puts even more emphasis on that scene and Ramsey sold it big time. |
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Post by ashleytinger on Mar 14, 2023 10:59:43 GMT
She absolutely DOESN'T believe them and by the point they're walking through the abandoned camp, they've gotten comfortable. It still worked for me, but knowing where it's going... ugh. The Last of Us world is definitely freaking brutal.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 15, 2023 14:17:26 GMT
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I am so sorry...