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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 8, 2024 14:02:16 GMT
Fantastic episode! Makes you nostalgic from this era when TNG was in top form. When ST: Picard was announced for the first time (2018, 2019?) this Picard the Archeologist immediately pop into my head. In fact I wrote a piece (that probably was my first post on Omega Sector) about my ideas on how creators should go about bringing back the best captain on Trek. Granted, it was a kind of whimsical write-up, a sort of fictional essay where I idealized Picard going back to his passion for archeology. Because here is the thing, a lot have been said about Picard's fatherhood as an unrealized wish on his heart but I will never agree with this interpretation. Being childless is core to Picard's notion of duty and, in relation with a more vast cultural aspect, it adds to Trek IDIC principles. I have express my disagreement with Picard's fatherhood elsewhere here. If "Picard" producers wanted to explore Jean-Luc past disappointments they should have considered the multiple instances on TNG that he expressed how dear archeology was to him (in my head and only in my head Discovery first episode of S5 is critical wink-wink at that "Picard" missed opportunity).
The flow of the episode (dir. Frakes) is flawless. I wonder if Discovery is borrowing from the puzzle-like structure on The Chase as a narration device for its last season. Could the Kurlan naiskos (ceramic figurine that Galen gifted to Picard) represent something in the search Discovery is engage with?
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 8, 2024 14:16:09 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if they try to work in more references to the episode and, as long as they fit well, I think it's great. And "The Chase" is at least an outstanding episode to go back to.
I hope they keep it up, so I can eventually point to this season with Matalas worshippers and say that THIS is how you do nostalgia.
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Post by MrPicard on Apr 9, 2024 9:27:57 GMT
"The Chase" is one of my favorite TNG episodes. I love how it combines Jean-Luc's love for archeology AND his love for mysteries.
And I agree, if I had been asked to write PIC, I would have written older Jean-Luc as an archeologist.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 12, 2024 3:05:12 GMT
I hope they keep it up, so I can eventually point to this season with Matalas worshippers and say that THIS is how you do nostalgia. That was precisely the point I was making! If you take it from Matalas PIC S3, nostalgia is like a parading of objects and momified characters on a showcase. But what if nostalgia is a sort of yearning for a form, a way to do things? Maybe I miss HOW TNG tells a story, and that's what nostalgia is really about. Matalas: you want to show how dear TNG is to you, bring back the morality tale and use the characters we all love to do it.
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Post by nombrecomun on Apr 12, 2024 5:29:27 GMT
The other reason The Chase works is that at the end you get a hell of an origin of species and a very uplifting message.
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Post by BeastBoy on Apr 12, 2024 15:43:35 GMT
I don't remember this episode.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 13, 2024 19:24:44 GMT
The other reason The Chase works is that at the end you get a hell of an origin of species and a very uplifting message. Very true. It works so well on Trek. It is funny because I have mixed feelings with this notion. Scientist apparently cast serious doubts about this whole idea of alien beings as originators of life on the galaxy, it reeks of intelligent design and creationism; a sort of pantheism and holistic mindset adapted to modern sensibilities, since in truth evolution suggest that the universe is probably a random occurrence. So it might be a scientifically unsound hypothesis, but on Trek as an origin story it really works!! Come to think of it, Trek is a fictional world with beings like Q, species 10C, the Crystalline Entity, Metrons, and so on and so fort. In THIS universe the idea of the Progenitors make sense. If you have godlike creatures it logically follows that they might be offsprings of very technologically advance super beings. A myth for the secularly inclined. It is a slippery slope of course, because Discovery runs the risk of attracting religious fundamentalist that might attached a theistic reading to the Progenitors. A risk worth taking, no after life is suggested, and the path to the Progenitors is through science and technology.
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