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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 30, 2024 22:07:15 GMT
Here.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 4, 2024 21:02:22 GMT
I have to say, I liked this episode, too. Well-constructed and engaging, even if it wasn't quite at the level of EP 1.
Rayner's a nice change of pace.
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Post by nombrecomun on Apr 5, 2024 22:03:54 GMT
I'll just chime in to say I don't have P+ anymore so I guess I'm out of the conversation. For some reason I thought this last season was still a year off.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 5, 2024 22:53:48 GMT
Oops.
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Post by Garak Nephew on Apr 7, 2024 13:26:53 GMT
Yes, very good episode too.
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I like how Rayner represents a sort of adversarial position without necessarily being a villain. Like McCoy or Riker but with a piss off attitude. On a similar line, the "bad guys" seem more rounded, more defined and complex; Discovery always had a villain problem (remember the awful Tarka or the ill-conceived Klingon affair), so maybe Rayner/Moll/L'ak are instances on the script to kind of spread the conflict effect on the story in an attempt to avoid falling into the "evil character" trap. I don't know, I am just speculating, it is too early.
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Post by scenario on Apr 7, 2024 15:31:09 GMT
Yes, very good episode too.
SPOILERS SPOILERS
I like how Rayner represents a sort of adversarial position without necessarily being a villain. Like McCoy or Riker but with a piss off attitude. On a similar line, the "bad guys" seem more rounded, more defined and complex; Discovery always had a villain problem (remember the awful Tarka or the ill-conceived Klingon affair), so maybe Rayner/Moll/L'ak are instances on the script to kind of spread the conflict effect on the story in an attempt to avoid falling into the "evil character" trap. I don't know, I am just speculating, it is too early. The Galaxy was in shambles for 100 years. The Federation was desperately trying to keep things together. Raynor seems to be the type character who would develop in troubled times. The Federation can't work in chaos. People like Raynor are needed in chaos until things are stable enough for an organization like the Federation to work.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 7, 2024 18:08:15 GMT
Yes, very good episode too.
SPOILERS SPOILERS I like how Rayner represents a sort of adversarial position without necessarily being a villain. Like McCoy or Riker but with a piss off attitude. On a similar line, the "bad guys" seem more rounded, more defined and complex; Discovery always had a villain problem (remember the awful Tarka or the ill-conceived Klingon affair), so maybe Rayner/Moll/L'ak are instances on the script to kind of spread the conflict effect on the story in an attempt to avoid falling into the "evil character" trap. I don't know, I am just speculating, it is too early. The Galaxy was in shambles for 100 years. The Federation was desperately trying to keep things together. Raynor seems to be the type character who would develop in troubled times. The Federation can't work in chaos. People like Raynor are needed in chaos until things are stable enough for an organization like the Federation to work. Very much this. It was a time of perpetual survival mode. There was no room for frills or niceties and Raynor was probably a typical captain for the era. * Get your orders. * Get the job done. Period. There were no RESOURCES to indulge in things like changing priorities mid-stream because morality. It's "Siege at AR-558" on a grand scale.
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Post by Sehlat Vie on Apr 9, 2024 14:13:53 GMT
I have to say, I liked this episode, too. Well-constructed and engaging, even if it wasn't quite at the level of EP 1. Rayner's a nice change of pace. I liked Rayner (BSG's Callum Keith Rennie is basically playing a pointy-eared Capt. Jellico), but the episode was a mess with its pacing; characters would simply stop the action cold just to talk... arms down at their sides. When Burnham and Saru were just chatting during the away mission, it was downright embarrassing to watch. Amateurish, like a school play. Anyway, it was okay overall, and believe it or not, I still want this show to succeed, but sometimes DSC needs to get out of its own way. My reviews of the first two here: Red Directive & Under the Twin Moons.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 9, 2024 14:28:17 GMT
I have to say, I liked this episode, too. Well-constructed and engaging, even if it wasn't quite at the level of EP 1. Rayner's a nice change of pace. I liked Rayner (BSG's Callum Keith Rennie is basically playing a pointy-eared Capt. Jellico), but the episode was a mess with its pacing; characters would simply stop the action cold just to talk... arms down at their sides. When Burnham and Saru were just chatting during the away mission, it was downright embarrassing to watch. Amateurish, like a school play. Anyway, it was okay overall, and believe it or not, I still want this show to succeed, but sometimes DSC needs to get out of its own way. My reviews of the first two here: Red Directive & Under the Twin Moons.Yeah, that was my biggest gripe and something I called out a bit on Treckcore. I can see Burnham sort of pausing and, "You know T'rina will kill me if something happens to you," but they're both resigned to the fact that he's the guy for the job and he's gonna be the one to go. But they actually stood there and had a FIGHT about it. They took actual time out of this race against time and had a fight about this. However, DSC has often let feels and the discussion of feels get in the way of common sense.
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Post by Yorick on Apr 14, 2024 9:01:31 GMT
I swear there was a Sleestak skull with the skeletal remains in the jungle.
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