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Post by RobinBland on Jan 10, 2023 17:25:53 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 14, 2023 21:25:48 GMT
I've never been all that keen on these films, but this AM has me curious.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 14, 2023 21:33:14 GMT
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 15, 2023 0:07:05 GMT
I like it. What was it in Multiverse of Madness? John Krasinski - Mr Emily Blunt? I mean, he worked, but I didn't find myself thirsting for his FF. Driver, on the other hand... I could watch him eating soup and be fascinated. When I first saw him in Girls, he's who kept me watching. He has that quality - some people are just great to watch, whatever character they're inhabiting. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 15, 2023 1:55:52 GMT
I like it. What was it in Multiverse of Madness? John Krasinski - Mr Emily Blunt? I mean, he worked, but I didn't find myself thirsting for his FF. Driver, on the other hand... I could watch him eating soup and be fascinated. When I first saw him in Girls, he's who kept me watching. He has that quality - some people are just great to watch, whatever character they're inhabiting. Yeah, I certainly don't object to him. I just find him kind of unexpected. I thought they were going to go another Mr. Blunt route. |
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Post by RobinBland on Jan 15, 2023 23:45:50 GMT
I like it. What was it in Multiverse of Madness? John Krasinski - Mr Emily Blunt? I mean, he worked, but I didn't find myself thirsting for his FF. Driver, on the other hand... I could watch him eating soup and be fascinated. When I first saw him in Girls, he's who kept me watching. He has that quality - some people are just great to watch, whatever character they're inhabiting. Yeah, I certainly don't object to him. I just find him kind of unexpected. I thought they were going to go another Mr. Blunt route. They still might. The bairn was very happy with Mr Blunt, but - as I essayed this news to her - she said Driver's proved he's "franchiseable." Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings. She's got a point, though. Star Wars has greater audience reach among the great unwashed than A Quiet Place. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 26, 2023 5:25:51 GMT
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 26, 2023 16:55:43 GMT
Yep. Just saw that. This really messes up their next couple of years. He was central to this phase. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Mar 27, 2023 17:00:04 GMT
I suppose recasting could work using a 'variant' that has more make up on. That way you can recast the actor but keep the character. I am not well verse on all the Kang variants to know which one would work best.
Loki is going to have to bite that bullet and go on with their S2 anyway. I doubt they would pull that out of rotation at this point.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Mar 27, 2023 17:26:45 GMT
I suppose recasting could work using a 'variant' that has more make up on. That way you can recast the actor but keep the character. I am not well verse on all the Kang variants to know which one would work best. Loki is going to have to bite that bullet and go on with their S2 anyway. I doubt they would pull that out of rotation at this point. Yeah, Loki S2 seems to be the biggest potential casualty here. His lawyer says the dropping of the charges is "imminent" with forthcoming evidence. "Imminent" isn't fast enough. The longer this drags. Some of the comments on Deadline are about, "Where's his due process?" That's a thing for the DA, not his employers. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Apr 19, 2023 2:04:45 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on May 2, 2023 18:00:38 GMT
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Post by Sehlat Vie on May 5, 2023 14:12:17 GMT
Yep. Just saw that. This really messes up their next couple of years. He was central to this phase. I just saw him in "Creed III" the other night and he was AMAZING. What a damn shame for all involved. |
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Post by nombrecomun on May 5, 2023 16:22:34 GMT
Yep. Just saw that. This really messes up their next couple of years. He was central to this phase. I just saw him in "Creed III" the other night and he was AMAZING. What a damn shame for all involved. For sure. He is absolutely talented, charismatic, etc....and I've only seen him within this role. But...yeah....I can't imagine a path forward for him right now. Who knows what happened but it will take time to suss things out(Depp vs Heard) but Marvel needs to move on. |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on May 5, 2023 17:16:26 GMT
I just saw him in "Creed III" the other night and he was AMAZING. What a damn shame for all involved. For sure. He is absolutely talented, charismatic, etc....and I've only seen him within this role. But...yeah....I can't imagine a path forward for him right now. Who knows what happened but it will take time to suss things out(Depp vs Heard) but Marvel needs to move on. Yeah, I think June is going to be the red line. Loki S2 airs with Majors and, unless between now and then, this resolves with his complete exoneration or a misdemeanor plea, Marvel's going to have to cut ties. This state of limbo dooms him just as much as a felony conviction would. |
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Post by Sehlat Vie on May 9, 2023 11:13:11 GMT
I just saw him in "Creed III" the other night and he was AMAZING. What a damn shame for all involved. For sure. He is absolutely talented, charismatic, etc....and I've only seen him within this role. But...yeah....I can't imagine a path forward for him right now. Who knows what happened but it will take time to suss things out(Depp vs Heard) but Marvel needs to move on. My wife went to see "Guardians of the Galaxy 3" in LA the other night, and Jonathan Majors was at the post-screening Q&A, so apparently all is well with Majors and Marvel, I guess...? PS: I didn't go for two reasons; first, I'm utterly bored with Marvel. I'm lost with all of it, and I have no desire to catch up, either. Secondly, it was a teachers' night with my wife and some of her colleagues. Part of the success of a long marriage is knowing when to give each other breathing room.  |
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Post by Prometheus59650 on May 9, 2023 14:57:40 GMT
For sure. He is absolutely talented, charismatic, etc....and I've only seen him within this role. But...yeah....I can't imagine a path forward for him right now. Who knows what happened but it will take time to suss things out(Depp vs Heard) but Marvel needs to move on. My wife went to see "Guardians of the Galaxy 3" in LA the other night, and Jonathan Majors was at the post-screening Q&A, so apparently all is well with Majors and Marvel, I guess...? PS: I didn't go for two reasons; first, I'm utterly bored with Marvel. I'm lost with all of it, and I have no desire to catch up, either. Secondly, it was a teachers' night with my wife and some of her colleagues. Part of the success of a long marriage is knowing when to give each other breathing room. For now, I'm sure. We'll see if that holds. Also, and very little snark here, and I think it's part of why Marvel is fizzling on the screen is that all of this after Endgame and there's very little to catch up on. - The Eternals were introduced. - The multiverse started to unravel in Loki and we were introduced to Kang. - Ant-Man killed one of the Kang variants. That's really it. You're caught up. Guardians has nothing to do with Kang. I don't believe Secret War on Disney+ next month has anything to do with Kang and the MV. No Way Home was quite good, but that's basically a standalone film. I don't think The Marvels in November has anything to do with Kang or the MV either and that's the problem. Endgame was built brick by brick over years. There wasn't, in hindsight, a ton of totally meaningless space. Everything had something to do with Thanos or what Thanos wanted, but this time? The story feels like it hasn't started yet. I don't REALLY know anything more about Kang than when it started, and no one has really tried to dive into the multiverse to show me different and potentially cool variables that might make me excited to see what they've come up with. It's still unformed to me. It's like a big glop of gruel slopped into your bowl. |
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Post by ashleytinger on Aug 3, 2023 12:12:40 GMT
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 has me finally figuring out what has been working with Phase 4 and what hasn't.
Guardians 3 was fantastic by the way.
A bunch of the movies and series have been all about trying to force in this moving narrative and the narrative is the focus and not the characters. The ones that worked for me overall focused on the characters, Guardians 3, Spider-Man No Way Home, WandaVision, She-Hulk, Loki, Falcon and Winter Soldier to a degree.
Ones that were ok but didn't work were focused on an event instead of the characters and the characters and drive and emotions suffered for it.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Aug 21, 2023 17:31:45 GMT
I think the problem is simpler. Explain the crux of Marvel from Iron man, to Endgame in one sentence:
"Thanos wants the Infinity Stones."
That's it, it's that simple, and pretty much everything drives towards that simple conclusion.
Explain the point post-Endgame that simply. You can't.
Who is Kang?
What does he want?
What is the multiverse and what's the point?
What are the rules of the multiverse?
The multiverse sounds cool. Show me cool things from it like you did in "No Way Home."
We're 5 or 6 movies in and there's still no easily discernable point and no one's giving me a reason to invest in the multiverse.
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Post by ashleytinger on Aug 21, 2023 21:59:38 GMT
Ahh.. the rules that Pixar laid down for their films...
Rule #1: You admire a character more for trying than for their successes
Rule #2: You’ve got to keep in mind what’s interesting to you as an audience. Not what’s fun to do as a writer. The two can be very different.
Rule #3: Trying for theme is important. However you won’t see what the story is about until you’re at the end of the story. Got it? Now rewrite.
Rule #4: Once upon a time there was______. Every day _______. One day________. Because of that,______. Until finally______.
Rule #5: Simplify. Focus. Hop over detours. You’ll feel like you’re losing valuable stuff but it sets you free.
Rule #6: What’s your character good at/most comfortable with? Throw the polar opposite at them. Challenge them. How do they deal?
Rule #7: Come up with your ending before you figure out your middle. Seriously, endings are hard. Get yours working up front.
Rule #8: Finish your story. Let go if it isn’t perfect. In an ideal world you have both, but move on. Do better next time.
Rule #9: When you’re stuck, make a list of what would and wouldn’t happen next. Material to get you Unstuck will show up.
Rule #10: Pull apart the stories you like. What you like in them is a part of you; you’ve got to recognize it before you can use it.
Rule #11: Putting it on paper lets you start fixing it. If it stays in your head, a perfect idea, you’ll never share it with anyone.
Rule #12: Discount the first idea that comes to mind. And the 2nd, and the 3rd and 4th and 5th. Get the obvious ones out of the way. Surprise yourself.
Rule #13: Give your characters opinions. Passive/malleable might seem likeable as you write, but it’s poison to the audience.
Rule #14: Why must you tell this story? What’s the belief burning within you that this story feeds off of? That’s the heart of it.
Rule #15: If you were your character in this situation, how would you feel? Honesty lends credibility to unbelievable situations.
Rule #16: What are the stakes? Give us a reason to root for the character. What happens if they don’t succeed? Stack the odds against them.
Rule #17: No work is ever wasted. If it doesn’t work, let go and move on. It’ll come back around and be useful later.
Rule #18: You have to know yourself: the difference between being yourself and fussing. Story is testing, not refining.
Rule #19: Coincidences to get characters into trouble are great, coincidences to get them out of it are cheating.
Rule #20: Exercise: Take the building blocks out of a movie you dislike. How’d you arrange them into what you do like?
Rule #21: You gotta identify with your characters/situations. You can’t just write “cool.” What would make you act that way?
Rule #22: What’s the essence of your story? The most economical telling of it? If you know that, you can build out from there.
Or the 5 pillars which are these 5 rules
Rule #4: Once upon a time there was______. Every day _______. One day________. Because of that,______. Until finally______.
Rule #13: Give your characters opinions. Passive/malleable might seem likeable as you write, but it’s poison to the audience.
Rule #19: Coincidences to get characters into trouble are great, coincidences to get them out of it are cheating.
Rule #6: What’s your character good at/most comfortable with? Throw the polar opposite at them. Challenge them. How do they deal?
Rule #3: Trying for theme is important. However you won’t see what the story is about until you’re at the end of the story. Got it? Now rewrite.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Nov 1, 2023 19:48:06 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Jan 9, 2024 20:35:30 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Feb 29, 2024 3:59:54 GMT
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Post by Prometheus59650 on May 22, 2024 17:55:32 GMT
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Post by Garak Nephew on May 22, 2024 19:12:51 GMT
I hope they give him a boat load of money so that he can stay there forever.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on May 22, 2024 19:25:50 GMT
I hope they give him a boat load of money so that he can stay there forever. People are oooh-ing and ahhh-ing what a great choice it is because, hey, he "saved" Star Trek. |
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Post by nombrecomun on Oct 1, 2024 4:54:12 GMT
So.....a LOT has happened since this thread started. Kang(Majors) is out and now we get RDJ back in the MCU as Dr Doom. Very interesting and notably very desperate of Marvel after some lackluster years with more misses than hits.
One of these Ytubers summarized my feelings in that basically I don't care about these heroes. They were ok as second leaguers, background characters to flesh out Iron Man, Captain America, etc...but on their own? Meh....
I can see the MCU trying to start over again with the Fantastic Four and Doom, building new stories and characters. Maybe involving some of the older ones again....as secondary characters.
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Post by Prometheus59650 on Oct 1, 2024 16:41:00 GMT
So.....a LOT has happened since this thread started. Kang(Majors) is out and now we get RDJ back in the MCU as Dr Doom. Very interesting and notably very desperate of Marvel after some lackluster years with more misses than hits. One of these Ytubers summarized my feelings in that basically I don't care about these heroes. They were ok as second leaguers, background characters to flesh out Iron Man, Captain America, etc...but on their own? Meh.... I can see the MCU trying to start over again with the Fantastic Four and Doom, building new stories and characters. Maybe involving some of the older ones again....as secondary characters. They've made some better decisions. Deadpool being the only Marvel outing this year is a good call. They've also hired back the Russo brothers. If nothing else, they still have trust of the fans. As for RDJ? Dr. D pretty much has to be Tony Stark variant. I have no idea how else it works. That said, I have no problem with a reboot sinve very little they've done post-Endgame worked or is worth keeping, and Loki S2 very neatly ended the Kang story. I'm at least interested to see where they take it. |
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I am so sorry...
Jul 14, 2024 1:18:27 GMT
I am so sorry...
Jul 14, 2024 1:18:27 GMT